Post-Alternative World type Idea-esque Things

[larewen_evenstar]

So, I take it that you've watched all of the El Hazard anime? What is there not to understand?

Do the first two episodes of EH2 count?

[Tim needs time to work it out]

Dooky - Alielle's expression after she kisses Makoto. Look carefully ... Could this be her getting even?

"Well, I grabbed his part, now to kiss him to get even!"
Either she does not know a good comback for this, maybe she just did it for the hell of it, or it could be because it's something new.  She had Fatora (a woman, no doubt), but she just met Makoto (a man, no doubt).  She does a comparison, and she's sticking with Fatora (probably not, but she's only 15.  Give me/her/him/that guy over there a break)

Okay, I think I will pitch my 2 cents concerning the "Broken Lamp" Issue:

"This happened briefly in The Shape of Things to Come, but Miz was able to fix it."

I didn't know that, but it could interesting, in a gaming element sort of way.

"(here we have an explanation of how the Lamp's appearnce changes between OAV1 and Alternative World)."

I think the reason the lamps change was because, like brother said, it was a different group drawing the series.  Why would you drastically change a lamp design just to fix it?  Maybe it's because it was broken a little more than usual, but if the problem is a cracked case, you don't throw it all away, right?

"On a semi-related point, we also discover that the Lamp is basically just a shell powered by a 'source' (for the Lamp of Fire, this is a piece of mysterious orange stone that glows when you poke it)."

Well, obviously, when we mean broken beyond repair, you can think of it as it was crushed or something that would break all the important parts, correct?

[Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator)]

Do the first two episodes of EH2 count?

Not nearly enough.    But at least you've got a start on the characters... you really need to at least see OAV1 in its entirety to "get" El-Hazard.


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Anyway, as for Arjah (whatever spelling), that's actually a pretty good explanation, another one I didn't think of.  (I would prefer Qawool's origin to remain within El-Hazard, why I didn't like Ifurita-child stories because those presumably happen in a real twisted time thing.)

Hmm... probably the only real issue with this is trying to explain exactly how the guy can come to possess Gilda if he's nothing but a body trapped in void.

[dooky]

Possessing Gilda: Hmm... in my story, I have Arjah possessing Qawoor several times. And he's not totally trapped- it's just that the accident that left in in the dimensional void converted him into a 'non-energetic' being. The physics behind this are a bit dodgy... it centres around a concept called zero energy which plays an important role in the fic. Since Arjah is non-energetic, exposure to the energy-filled outside world is very dangerous for him under most circumstances. He is, however, more powerful following dimensional transport- hence his ability to possess Gilda. He can tinker around with electrons here and there, but nothing major. He also gets more powerful if zero energy is present in the environment (it can exist as discrete 'bubbles' when there's enough of it)- although this isn't really relevant to Cretaria, since the Eye of God doesn't release zero energy. Are you following? This, by the way, is the part of the fic that made the least sense ^_^

As for Alielle: One thing we can assume from that scene is that Alielle is slightly less squeamish about boys than Fatora is...

Incidentally, isn't it weird how both Alielle and Fatora have had on-screen kisses, but not with each other? Alielle got Makoto, and Fatora got Shayla...

[Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator)]

I guess actually having them kiss treads right on the boundaries of suspected sexual something or another.  I dunno, maybe no one ever saw a good opening to do an Alielle/Fatora make-out scene... that would kind of lend itself into the same department as AW13, wouldn't it?


And as for your continuing theory... I'll definately have to work on pondering the zero energy concept a while, but it's very intriguing too, and in fact the theory as a whole really doesn't cancel out any of the ideas that I'd want to use Arjah for.  It'd tweak them a little, maybe, but nothing I couldn't just write around.  Not that I have anything solid yet anyway.
When all is said and done, I might actually use yours, it could be potentially more interesting...

[larewen_evenstar]

I only found this page in February, and have only known about EH since Summer last year.So, I have been net researching since then and I am learning as much as possible.  

[Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator)]

HEh, I finally remember one of the deciding points on why I assumed Allujah to be a non-human form...



Those damn hands of his are unattached, free-floating bodies!  Not to mention he has pointy ears, a strange shriveled face, and no lower body...

[dooky]

Yeah... I explained that by saying Arjah was a somewhat accident-prone scientist. Working with Demon Gods has got to be a bit dangerous. But since he was so good at robotics, presumably he rebuilt himself. As for the ears... I have no explanation for them, nor for the fact that he looks like he should be in Battle Athletes...

[Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator)]

Alternatively, I randomly thought of a scene like...

"Good Lord, what happened to your arms!?"
"Anti-gravity free floating hands are far less constrictive!"



Genius idea or accident prone foolishness?

But true, kind of a cyborg rebuilding of himself... hell, if he DID work with demon gods, and assuming they're part flesh, then he's got to know some of the tricks of the trade, right?

[Kathy Guinea]

But true, kind of a cyborg rebuilding of himself... hell, if he DID work with demon gods, and assuming they're part flesh, then he's got to know some of the tricks of the trade, right?

Is your version of Alluja like that of Zero in Megaman X5 who was made into a TORSO at the end of the game but somehow rebuilt himself (from a torso with no hands) so that he re-appears in X6?

Are we saying that Alluja is a self-building torso? O_o;

[larewen_evenstar]

That guy is scary.  

[Saucer]

Yeah... I explained that by saying Arjah was a somewhat accident-prone scientist. Working with Demon Gods has got to be a bit dangerous. But since he was so good at robotics, presumably he rebuilt himself. As for the ears... I have no explanation for them, nor for the fact that he looks like he should be in Battle Athletes...

::goes out on a limb::

Or........ maybe he's from the same race of higher dimensional beings as Washu was originally from? Or...... maybe he's the same race as Kagato (speaking of disembodied hands!)  

[Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator)]

*saws off Saucer's limb from the tree*

[larewen_evenstar]

What is all this about limbs?

[dooky]

We're just pondering why Arjah, despite being an all powerful villain type, doesn't appear to have any limbs at all.