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El-Hazard Online / Re: Favorite Makoto Moment
« on: July 24, 2003, 06:38:24 pm »
Makoto imitating Jinnai in Wanderers, complete with The Laugh.

And hell, from the manga... This is paraphrased, mind you:

Makoto: *being chased by Jinnai* You made your bed!
Jinnai: And you expect me to sleep in it? All by myself? Not a chance!
Makoto: *smiling beatifically* Hey, I'm not that kinda guy!


Giggling like a schoolboy when Alielle blows in his ear...

That whole dramatic scene in which he's veeeery sloooowly giving Shayla CPR, which starts with sappy music and ends with *THWACK!*

Virtually all sentences in the Japanese version of any series in which he ends a sentence with "ya" (though that's mainly due to the fact that I think the Osaka dialect is just adorable.  :P).

El-Hazard Online / Re: Makoto Vs. Jinnai
« on: July 24, 2003, 06:24:43 pm »
Hmm, hard to say, hard to say. I mean, it all comes down to which series you're watching and how much credibility you put to it. ^^;

I tend to see the OAV, of course, in the lead in that respect, with perhaps Wanderers tailing close behind. It's been so long since I've seen OAV2 that I just can't offer an opinion on that... and, as expected, AW is last in the pecking order. ^^

That said...

Well, it's obvious that I'm rooting for Jinnai anyway, so color me biased.  :P But really, just looking at the physical prowess of both of 'em, I'm not sure who I'm inclined to go for.

Take for example Jinnai's flashback in the first ep of the OAV when Makoto wins that distance-run-marathon thing with little difficulty, all smiles and whatnot. Then think of Jinnai stumbling up to the finish line, panting heavily and then collapsing to the ground with a dry heave. ^__^;;; Of course, he then later chases down Makoto with no hint of exhaustion, so I guess it's anybody's call.  :-/ Maybe he had adrenaline on his side at that time?

In terms of Wanderers, that demi-fistfight they had before Jinnai kidnapped Rune and Nanami seemed pretty evenly matched, honestly. They both got some pretty good hits in.

Also, I had to have this pointed out to me, but it's very interesting now that I think of it. I seem to remember Makoto saying something about how incredibly heavy Ifurita is earlier in the series, but when Jinnai picks her up in the Eye of God, he lifts her with no apparent difficulty. I suppose that could conceivably be seen as evidence that Jinnai may be physically stronger than Makoto is...

Ultimately, well... my Lord God's got the ambition, at least.  ;D

El-Hazard Online / Re: Just a humble n00b... ^_^
« on: July 24, 2003, 05:49:46 pm »
Goodness, I'd never even stopped to consider that. That... makes a lot of sense, actually. ^^;

Lord God 0wnz me indeed. And let it be said that I love that pic. Is it your own? ^__^

El-Hazard Online / Re: Karaoke!
« on: June 28, 2003, 11:13:25 pm »
I remember I fell into the same trap once with "The Conqueror Jinnai"; one I downloaded before I got the soundtracks claimed length of about 15 minutes and I thought "Wow, they can just keep on going about Jinnai..." XD

But who can't? I mean, come on.

It never fails to amaze me how good a singer our loveable dictator-in-training is.  :P Okiayu really outdid himself with "The Conquerer Jinnai"...  ;D

o/~Todoroke ware koso... Jinnai Katsuhiko~...o/~

I thought of karaoke-ing it once, but it just doesn't carry the same weight that it normally does when sung an octave up by a petite teenage girl.  :P

El-Hazard Online / Re: A LOT of Jinnai-centric rambling ^^
« on: June 26, 2003, 11:14:47 pm »
[munches on cookie] Mmmm... that doesn't work. The thing with Nny is that he knows that he is insane and "the bad guy". He frequently says to victims, "at least, I'm under the dellusion of doing something productive" and other confusing contradictory stuff.  Jinnai doesn't know he is insane. He just thinks he's doing what's right, and is convinced that he should be an ultimate ruler and Makoto is the anti-christ. There is no "to-ing" and "fro-ing" with it, like with Nny.

Oh, I wasn't trying to say that Jinnai and Nny were at all alike aside from the similar "we don't care what makes him insane and if we do, we shouldn't" sentiment. ^^ Believe me, the similarities stop there, IMO. o_o

...And I'm still waiting for someone to pick up the "tearful understanding" picture that Rob put in my head. Otherwise, I might just go and do it myself. And that would be CATACLYSMICALLY TERRIFYING.  :P

El-Hazard Online / Re: A LOT of Jinnai-centric rambling ^^
« on: June 26, 2003, 12:38:12 am »

...okay, now back to your regularly-scheduled program. *zips off to play with the mp3s*  ;D

El-Hazard Online / Re: A LOT of Jinnai-centric rambling ^^
« on: June 25, 2003, 11:03:34 pm »
I saw this topic name on the "most recent post" thing on the main page and instantly my mind clicked "It's gotta be Xel..."

Oh, you love me.  ;D

Rather than suggest necessarily that Jinnai had a love interest in Makoto or whatever by that memory of Nanami... perhaps rather we can deduce it actually was just trying to prove a point that Nanami stole all of his classmates at school (the "game" memory) and then that Nanami would also steal away his joy of torturing little Makoto, his nemesis from day 1.  Makoto is just for some reason totally oblivious to Jinnai's dark-heartedness.  Of course, yours is a unique look, and I certainly never mind a unique look.

Which is a good thing, seeing as you'll probably seeing MUCH more of it in the future. You just wait until I finish rewatching the OAVs, mister. >:3

Speaking of which, I'm scaring the living daylights out of myself with my trian of thought as I watch the second episode on the International Channel right now. First I giggled at Alielle's "You go, Sister!" to Shayla, which sounded like a "Hey sister, soul sister..." kinda thing. Which made me imagine the EH girls decked out and singing Moulin Rouge style.  :o

Um. Anyway...

Okay, but that's Wanderers.  We have to remember that Hayashi had nothing to DO with Wanderers.

This is true. Though I don't think that means it should be counted as any less legit than the OAV... *ducks flying objects* ^_^; Use the traditional fanfiction cop-out! "It's an alternate universe, so anything goes!". This one just happens to be an official alternate universe.  ;)

 (Keep in mind, I'm listening to these and I can't understand a word of Japanese, but I pick up audio clues.  :P)

Something tells me I need to become a contributor, and fast. x_x You wouldn't count my inane ramblings as a contribution, would you?

And everything is going great until Makoto walked in on Jinnai doing some shady dealing with someone else.  (Ishijima?)  Makoto's surprised sounding reaction indicates to me that it was an accident, yet since Jinnai retaliated, he probably figured then that Makoto had deliberately eavesdropped on him.  (This is where the drama ends, too.)  Especially later when Makoto snitched.  That would be where Jinnai would build up his actual hatred and paranoia of Makoto, who ruined his reign.  "Why is he doing this to me!?" [since I thought he was my friend!]

Further upset, of course, by the fact that for whatever inexplicable reason, Jinnai's got issues. Big ones. >_> But I'm beginning to think that maybe it's like Nny's character from Johnny the Homicidal Maniac. No one knows why he's insane. He just is. And we love him for it. (a cookie for whoever knows what the hell I'm talking about.  :P)

I do think the dramas hold more real value than the Wanderers, since there's potential Hayashi had something to do with those dramas and it's known he had little to do with The Wanderers.

Maybe I'll ask him someday. ^_^ My friend's ex, Jason, is actually, er... semi-buddies with him. No joke. They used to chat and stuff.  :o ...Methinks I should really get in touch with Jason. 9_9

I also like this image that seems to support my idea.  While the Alternative World series is only really as valid as The Wanderers for the same reason, it IS built on the OAV storyline, and here's an image from episode 2 that further supports my idea that Jinnai was once just a regular guy:

*jaw drops* Hoooly...! WHY did I never notice that before? That's, um... really neat. O_O *clicksave*

He looks like a guy you wanna know!

But I would wanna kn-- ah, you know it already.  ;D

Jinnai's rivlary with Makoto is probably just something horribly misdirected.  If Jinnai were to seriously sit down with Makoto and talk for five minutes and maybe cry a few more, he'd probably realize that the whole thing was a misunderstanding.  But he's probably long-out snapped already.

*has long since literally sunk to the floor in hysterical giggles* I smell a fic, by cracky... XDDD Or, alternately, I will kiss whoever writes such a thing. Mr. What, my friend, I'm looking at you especially.  :P

That'd be right out of an episode of Dr. Phil! *cracks up again*

(Oh, and my props to the guy who me and my brother and sister have dubbed "Young Jay Leno" in the middle there XD)

Whoa, it's true. ...Terrifying.

El-Hazard Online / A LOT of Jinnai-centric rambling ^^
« on: June 25, 2003, 09:32:55 pm »
Erm... I'll just start by saying that I just REALLY had to get this off my chest... figured this was the ideal place to do it.

Also warning you all that this is slightly yaoi-tinged, based almost (well, at least when I mention specific events) entirely on The Wanderers, and will probably be the approximate length of a small book when I'm through-- a book filled from cover-to-cover with nonsensical theories and rantings at that. Oh, and of course, it's all entirely my decidedly twisted opinion. :P That said, here I go!

Yes, well. It's an undisputed fact that Jinnai is fairly obsessed with Makoto, right? Indeed. He HATES him with a passion. Some say... that when one feels this hatred with such an overwhelming intensity, it has a tendency to... blur the line between hate and a twisted sense of love.

At the very least, he loves the way Makoto makes him feel, in a sense-- the feelings it evokes in him become familiar, comfortable. Maybe a little addictive. No, I haven't experienced this firsthand or anything.  :-/

We're all familiar (or most of us, at least ^^) with episode 20, which deals with the rivalry between Nanami and Jinnai when the Bugrom start to love her more than they do him. And in this ep, we get some really kinda interesting glimpses into Jinnai's childhood...

From what we're shown, Jinnai really seems to resent Nanami a lot for her long-time popularity... and I kinda wonder how much of that has been misdirected towards Makoto. Whatever kind of inferiority complex Jinnai has (come on-- how else do you explain some of this motives? That and his power issues... No, the "he's just a nutcase" explanation doesn't cut it. :P), it really seems likely that his relationship with Nanami was just fuel to the fire... But the Jinnai/Nanami dynamic is a whole 'nother can of worms. There is one neat flashback that deals more with Makoto, though...

It looks as though Makoto and Jinnai were sort of... tentative friends in the beginning. In both the OAVs and Wanderers, Makoto seems to regard him as a friend, anyway...  :-/ but anyway. There's that scene where little Jinnai is lying in his room reading Tenchi (props go out to AIC for such a colossal plug XD) and then cute lil' Makoto yells "Jinnai-kun! Come play with me!" through his window. The way Jinnai decides to handle it is a fairly good indication of his mammoth ego at so early an age...  ;)  but on the way down, little Nanami-chan tackles and hugs Makoto and drags him off by the hand...

And lo and behold, our good buddy Jinnai looks utterly shocked and devastated when he comes outside and sees the two of them retreating into the distance. Now I ask you! If Jinnai hates Makoto so much, barring the aforementioned perversion of affection that I mentioned earlier, then WHY does that memory stand out in his mind when he thinks of all the things Nanami has taken from him...?  :o

An' I'm through. *snaps fingers*

... Wait, no I'm not.  ;D

It's sort of left up to interpretation whether or not Makoto dies/disappears to save El Hazard, isn't it? Sure, he comes back all winged-like to smooch Rune, but still... was that supposed to be symbolic or what?  :-/ Though I guess everyone seems to react when he "comes back", so... But that's not the point. >_<

Anyway, remember how the last scene in the Bugrom Empire shows Jinnai acting, well... like he normally does? And Diva says something about him getting back on his feet so soon after the near-end of the world, and he says something to the effect of "But it isn't the plan that's important, it's the way his face would look if he could hear me laughing!"

Iffy is sweeping the floors like she usually does and smiles to herself... and then says something like "It's nice to hear him so happy until he remembers."... Cue Jinnai with his maniacal (and sexy, sexy) laugh. Then he sags and looks all despondent-like.

If you wanna get overly dark about it, one might say that Jinnai falls deeper into insanity by the end of Wanderers-- he has devoted so much of himself to hating ("hating"  :P) Makoto that he's started to delude himself into believing that he isn't really gone at times... This is, of course, supposedly ALL he ever wanted throughout the series, so why so unhappy, Katsuhiko? ...I find it really rather sad, honestly.  :'(

... You're probably all completely assured of my madness now. I'll, um. Go hide under the table. Carry on.

El-Hazard Online / Re: How were you hooked?
« on: June 15, 2003, 02:03:11 pm »
Mine's embarrassingly simple, really... I heard Jinnai's laugh somehow one day, and thought "GOD that's sexy." I haven't looked back since.  ;D

El-Hazard Online / Re: Just a humble n00b... ^_^
« on: May 30, 2003, 06:24:21 pm »
Wow, Spanner... o_o Small world, eh? Sadly, I can't for the life of me remember where I saw it... if I manage to dig it up I'll let you know.

And nope, Rob... not because it was concise. I like long, rambling posts and theories; makes me feel more at home.  :P No, it was definitely the wording. Freaks out like a tool, indeed. XD

El-Hazard Online / Re: Just a humble n00b... ^_^
« on: May 30, 2003, 05:37:50 pm »
 His primary goal was to become "leader" of his high school and pretty much be in control.  I DON'T think this vision included women.  From what I've heard, you've used this to your leverage.  :P

...Eheh. *coughs and nudges her avatar* You know me too well already. ^^;

Damn you, Mark Engels! You're not supposed to warn them! Daaaaamn yoooooouu....!

I think Jinnai just likes Diva because she believes everything he says and worships him as if he were an idol or a person of high authority and that's exactly what Jinnai wants... All he ever wants.

Besides, Diva sees him more as a Well-Respected-Man-For-A-Mission and not a guy which she'd have the guts to go up and say "I WANT YOU!"... She doesn't even seem to show the slightest hint of it.

*quite pleased at the responses this has gotten* o_o Hmm... well, all of these takes on it are really interesting... Saucer's in particular. XD I'm not really sure where I stand on it myself... though for what it's worth, I find it extremely interesting that in virtually every bit of official art in which those two are together, they're almost always very, erm... physical with one another. >_>; And this is prior to Alternative World as well (I say this because I know that the overall characterization of ep 13 is considered highly suspect by some in these parts...  :P).

On a wholly unrelated note, I am overjoyed to learn that Minnesota is receiving its very own con! Not until sometime 2004, sure, but still! If you live in the area, come on down...  ;D

El-Hazard Online / Just a humble n00b... ^_^
« on: May 29, 2003, 10:26:15 pm »
Greetings! *waves frenetically* I've been hovering about for the past couple days and finally got around to posting... I'm Xel!

If you're on the EH ML, you're no doubt familiar with (and sick of  :P) me and my overwhelming Jinnai fanaticism. *wink* I can't help it... the man's brilliant! (I'm disappointed because there's no "maniacal" smiley available for my frequent use...  ;D)

Anyway, it's great to be here... I suppose I'll start up my first topic for discussion right now, then!

Alrighty. I ask to you, the humble people of EH Online... Jinnai and Diva: what is your take on their relationship? Nothing there? Purely sexual? Love somewhere? One-sided? Mutual? Don't wanna think about it?  ;D  Taking into consideration, of course, matters like the infamous Alternative World ordeal, Jinnai's obsession with Makoto (not insinuating anything here... well, not really... this time.), et cetera, what's YOUR standpoint? ^_~

*excitedly awaits the board's replies~!*

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