El-Hazard Online
General => El-Hazard Online => Topic started by: MrWhat on February 17, 2003, 10:11:00 pm
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Well, I've got minor writer's block. More like writer's speed-bump-- I just haven't gotten around to taking some time out to do some brain-storming. :P
So I updated this list instead. It's complete now.
http://echoalpha.com/fanfic/ElHazard_links.html
148 stories. That's pretty much everything I could find, via FF.net, Usenet and Google. Did I miss any?
There are two missing stories-- "The Continuance" (missing from IMSA) and "Nightmares End, Dreams Beginning" (NC-17 fic dropped from FF.net). Are these publicly posted anywhere else?
EA
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As in, two missing, suggesting a total of 150 El-Hazard fanfics ever known / written?
I really ought to look into these for inspiration, once I'm off the Saturn project (God willing, it might only be a week or two!), at which point I'll focus entirely on my BIG El-Hazard project, which essentially is glorified, interactive fanfiction (read: Fangame, fan-created video game). Or rather, what I hope it becomes. At this point it's nothing more then an undertested development engine... sketchy gameplay devices and a slightly buggy but high potential "live" cinematic engine.
Anyway, yeah. Are there any stories that just cling to the top of your head, that I really should read? The only thing I don't care for are cross-existance things, especially since those won't help me and I also usually don't know the cross-over show or don't agree it makes a "good" one. ;p But any other content is fine with me, I'm trying to figure out what direction I really want to go, and what grounds I wish to tread, for one thing.
That infamous Jinnai / Shayla one spoken of some posts ago (by Fish I believe), real famous and whatnot, I loved it so I would almost directly implement it, only adjusting for post-AW timeline specs, as opposed to its pre-OAV2 (?) time slot. But as the eternal curse forever loops, I don't really know if there would be a REASON to tread there, since I really don't know what I want do.
I put a lot of power into the hands of a creative mind that ... well, isn't by itself a fanfic writer's mind. :p (Programmer hobbyist by nature, but with desire to create worlds.)
Oh, and should I test it enough and say that it's ready for some production work, then I would certainly enlist the help of any fanfic writers or at least heavy readers about the place.
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Are there any stories that just cling to the top of your head, that I really should read?
Let me state some very important disclaimers.
I haven't read at least a third of those stories myself. Jason Youngberg's two serials and Liam Roy's "Somewhere In Between" are on my To Read list, among others, as I write this.
These are by no means the only ones I like. I kinda hate to make a list, because there are so few EH authors, and I really don't want to put someone off by leaving their story out.
And, ask me tomorrow, and I'll give you a different list. But that's always the case. So, having said all that...
These are the two "big ones." They're both essential reading.
El-Hazard: Earth by Ken Wolfe
The Shape Of Things To Come by Dookychan
I'd also recommend these, among others.
The Adventures of Alielle and Fatora by Dookychan
(everything by Eponymous)
Caryatid by Vince Seifert
Fault by Fish <-- I like this one too :-)
How Fatora Stole Christmas (and Shayla-Shayla) by Taloon
Mortal Engines by Alan Harnum (incomplete, abandoned)
Nemurenai by Emily Siazon
No Thanks for the Memories by Seto of Jurai
The Princess B*%$# by Erin (The Princess Bride parody)
Pure by EmpressGalaxia (only one chapter, dang it)
The Tale Of The Jinniyah And The King by Vince Seifert
Wandering Souls by Spanner (again, only one chapter, dang it)
And these are probably the best of mine (plug, plug):
The Charm / Hana Ni Arashi (my two "straight" serials)
The Alternative Amuck (uneven, but I still like most of it)
The Angst
Fatora Saga (Excel Saga parody)
Jinnai And The Bug (Pinky & The Brain parody, sort of)
Mind Trip
The Reception
Sad Girls In Snow
Scary Campfire Stories
What's It Like
Skip "Damn, It's Hot" and "Where We Came In"-- those two are clunkers :P
Oh, and should I test it enough and say that it's ready for some production work, then I would certainly enlist the help of any fanfic writers or at least heavy readers about the place.
I'm two for two 8) I'm awfully busy in RL, with other things, but I'm interested.
EA
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FYI, (http://www.el-hazardonline.net/El-Hazard/temp/rob/FujisawaDANCE.gif) is nicknamed "The Fujisawa Dance", and is definately the lowest point of my fangame creating hobby ever. I mean, look at those legs, that "dance" is not even possible! Argh.
But anyway, it encouraged me to take things to a whole new level... I just hope the new level is stable enough to make some an "illusion real"...
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I still say it looks like Shaggy.
(LOOK KIDS - NEIL'S STILL ABOUT)
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"I'd also recommend these, among others.
The Adventures of Alielle and Fatora by Dookychan
(everything by Eponymous)
Caryatid by Vince Seifert
Fault by Fish <-- I like this one too
How Fatora Stole Christmas (and Shayla-Shayla) by Taloon
Mortal Engines by Alan Harnum (incomplete, abandoned)
Nemurenai by Emily Siazon
No Thanks for the Memories by Seto of Jurai
The Princess B*%$# by Erin (The Princess Bride parody)"
I did want to finish that, someday. It's been awhile since I saw TPB.
I'm embarrassed to admit I don't read much fanfic, but I did really like "Fault". ;D It think it proves that almost any premise can be made believable (of course, believable premises can also been done poorly). It all depends on the author.
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I don't read a lot of fanfiction either, but that's only really because of a personality issue. (Basically, I can't stand sitting still for a long period of time not actually producing something.)
But I do read fanfiction recommendations if they come about and I think I'll be interested.
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Bloody hell, it's Erin!
Erin, the legendary originator of the first El-Hazard mailing list! Erin, who worked out that the Eye of God's genetic inheritance pattern was mitochondrial!
So yeah... hi, Erin!
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Erin, whose avatar is labeled as "private content" by the server it originates from. ;)
I feel bad I don't really know any of the "famous" people. But alrighty.
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XD Oh god, that fic is funny. Poor Schayla never got untied though ^^; eheheh...
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The Adventures of Alielle and Fatora by Dookychan
I read the first one, I loved it. But then again, in my stable state of mind, I would. I'm a lesbian ;D so I understood that more than most of you. No offence.
Moral of first story, very true. ;D
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My, such praise ^_^
I'm glad you liked my story, although I should point out that as the author, I'm actually not a lesbian. Wrong gender, gomen... (although as we know, deep down everyone's a lesbian)
I'm working on getting corrected versions of all my fics, complete with little banners and everything, up on my soon-to-be-launched website. Ironically, the one series I haven't fully converted yet is the Adventures of Alielle and Fatora.
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I'm a lesbian. In a male body. *thwack*
Mm, arguements that wouldn't work with Fatora...
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I'm a lesbian. In a male body. *thwack*
Are you gay?
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Lar (to Rob) - "Are you gay?"
What?
Listen, the joke is that a lesbian like girls, right?
He's just saying that he wants a girlfriend.
He's straight, just taking a long way around of saying it.
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And I quote:- Just say what you're tryin' to say to me! Stop playin' games with my mind man! (Scott Simpson aka Keiichi Morisato)
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Bloody hell, it's Erin!
Erin, the legendary originator of the first El-Hazard mailing list! Erin, who worked out that the Eye of God's genetic inheritance pattern was mitochondrial!
So yeah... hi, Erin!
Dooky!! Wow! You're alive, too? ;) (I am totally playing innocent; I've been lurking on that Shoujo-Ai forum for longer than I'd like to admit, so I've seen you around :))
How are you? Legendary me? Hah!! You're quite the celebrity here yr'self, my fiancee Charlie was telling me about your great site just the other day. But, he is a raving, insane, frothing-at-the-mouth Alielle and Fatora fanboy, so I figured he would like it. :) *notes Charlie hoarding your Alielle and Fatora artwork and shakes head*
See, I knew you back when you were just this guy who...was a big Fatora fan, and...wrote Fatora fanfiction, and...*thinks* I guess you haven't changed THAT much. ;)
Nice to see you again. :)
*note that she is still alive*
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http://anime.muck.com/~sakura/stories/elhazard/Dreams.txt
thats the link to nightmares end dreams begining for you Mr. what
1 more to go.
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Okay folks...I've been working on a fiction with a cross over with El Hazard... you can find it by doing a search for Point of Origin on Fanfiction.net under the Naruto fanfictions.
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Finally updated the El-Hazard fan-fiction links list. Fixed broken Pit Of Voles links and MediaMiner.org links, and added more recent stories from those two archives, some links I had found over the past year or so, and a couple of links that other folks kindly forwarded to me recently.
The missing stories are now at the bottom of the list. We got one back, but we lost four more. Help!!
http://echoalpha.com/fanfic/ElHazard_links.html
Enjoy! The fan-art list is next, when I can get around to it...
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Finally updated the El-Hazard fan-fiction links list. Fixed broken Pit Of Voles links and MediaMiner.org links, and added more recent stories from those two archives, some links I had found over the past year or so, and a couple of links that other folks kindly forwarded to me recently.
The missing stories are now at the bottom of the list. We got one back, but we lost four more. Help!!
http://echoalpha.com/fanfic/ElHazard_links.html
Enjoy! The fan-art list is next, when I can get around to it...
I was able to contact two of the people that dropped off the list. Both of them deleted their own works, they said they thought that the stories were bad, and one said that she only writes yaoi now. *rolls eyes*
Sorry, Yuri writers I can deal with... Anime lends itself to the medium. But Yaoi writers are generally a bunch of whacked out little high school girls with too much pent up sexual curiosity and confustion. The idea that you'd delete your own work just because it doesn't have a bunch of gay guys running around trying to get each other in bed... just stupid.
Oh well... some people.
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Sorry, Yuri writers I can deal with... Anime lends itself to the medium.
How's that exactly, compared to the opposite?
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I was able to contact two of the people that dropped off the list. Both of them deleted their own works, they said they thought that the stories were bad, and one said that she only writes yaoi now. *rolls eyes*
Sorry, Yuri writers I can deal with... Anime lends itself to the medium. But Yaoi writers are generally a bunch of whacked out little high school girls with too much pent up sexual curiosity and confustion. The idea that you'd delete your own work just because it doesn't have a bunch of gay guys running around trying to get each other in bed... just stupid.
Oh well... some people.
Wow... That's quite a double standard! I agree that your assessment may have been true in the past, but today's anime certainly lends itself just as much to yaoi as it does to yuri. I can name six or seven shows just off the top of my head that have hordes of sexually ambiguous pretty-boy males in leading roles (even in anime that's supposed to be aimed primarily toward a male audience!), and the producers are rarely shy about throwing in little tidbits for the "rabid fangirls" to latch onto. They know what sells.
I would also question your implied assumption that most male yuri fans are any less "whacked out" and "sexually pent up". Saying so is like implying men read Playboy for the articles. ::) Guys don't write yuri fanfics because they consider it high literature. They do it 'cause they wanna see hot chicks gettin' it on without all that male nastiness getting in the way. Female Yaoi writers have similar motivation. One might argue that they are, in fact, more mature than male yuri writers, since they tend to focus more on the romance and character interaction more than the hawt sexx0r, whereas men regard the romance and character interaction is just a regretable formality which needs to be rushed through, or even skipped altogether to get to the good stuff.
(I need a Dooky disclaimer here: The above are generalizations, and don't necessarily apply to all yaoi and/or yuri fans and writers. There are, of course, exceptions to pretty much all things.)
I'm not a fan of yaoi OR yuri, but I'm certainly not deluded enough to think that either medium is "superior" or "more sensible" than the other!
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Now there's some interesting reading material. I never really looked into gender-typing on the outer part as it actually flows into the yaoi / yuri stuff. I think Spanner's right.
... and it just kind of arose my curiosity, Spanner, did you ever tell me how you came up with that name exactly?
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Now there's some interesting reading material. I never really looked into gender-typing on the outer part as it actually flows into the yaoi / yuri stuff. I think Spanner's right.
... and it just kind of arose my curiosity, Spanner, did you ever tell me how you came up with that name exactly?
I may have. I don't remember. Here's a hint: Spanner is the name of a very obscure character from a semi-obscure comic book back in the 80's. Can you figure it out? ^_^V
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I don't have anything to add to the original topic or the current off-topic discussion. I just wanted to commend Bob on his latest user-picture and administrative persona.
(http://echoalpha.com/weblog/OsakaDivision.300x100.png)
Welcome to the Division, Bob 8)
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Haha, awesome. "We remember her real name" as well. ^_^V (Sorry the avatar is momentarily out; I'll have to kick that server when I get home... or just stop using it.)
... you don't see it here, but on another forum I frequent, "P.S. Ayumu Kasuga" is in my forum signature as well. If you don't mind, I'm going to simply have to add your little image to that as well.
As for "Spanner" up there... I'm only 22, so the 80's weren't exactly my prime... and I didn't really get into comics much... so... I couldn't guess. ^^;
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To be honest, I wouldn't expect the guy to come to mind even if you HAD been big into comics in the 80's. ^^;
He was a minor character in "The Transformers" - a civilian scientist on Cybertron who was forced by the evil Decepticons to create a "Space Bridge" that would allow them easy transport between Earth and Cybertron. In order to ensure Spanner's cooperation, the Decepticons literally built him into the bridge.
Blaster, the leader of the contingent of Autobots still on Cybertron, had planned on destroying the bridge, but became reluctant when he learned that the bridge was itself alive. Spanner himself insisted that he do the deed, though, since it wasn't much of a life he was living in his current form, and the Decepticons needed to be stopped.
I picked the name for my Internet handle when I was in college, for reasons that I don't recall. It wasn't as though I was still big into Transformers at that time (though I still remembered them quite fondly).
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Ehhhh, I guess I needed to alter my sig anyway. I've probably had the last one for a couple years now. ;P
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One might argue that they are, in fact, more mature than male yuri writers, since they tend to focus more on the romance and character interaction more than the hawt sexx0r, whereas men regard the romance and character interaction is just a regretable formality which needs to be rushed through, or even skipped altogether to get to the good stuff.
Mmm, well. You know what I say. Or maybe you don't, so that's why I'm going to say it again: the hawt sexx0r? Just ain't fun if you can possibly stick any two (or three, or seven...) other characters in the same place and come out with the same result. The character dynamic has to be unique, you know? Otherwise, hey. You could get the same joy out of porn, right? If it was just anybody? I know I could. But people involved in fandom (at least the people I know, who are predominantly female) tend to seek out smutfic for a reason, no? There's an element of personality there that can't afford to be lost with the characters involved.
What I mean by that is, y'know. If it's smut, and it's Jinnai (come on, you knew I'd go there... not everything has changed), I want the man on the page to sound and act unmistakably like Jinnai. Maniacal cackling and all. Or not, perhaps given the circumstances, seeing as Jinnai and consensual sex appear to exist in diametric opposition to one another... but I digress.
(I need a Dooky disclaimer here: The above are generalizations, and don't necessarily apply to all yaoi and/or yuri fans and writers. There are, of course, exceptions to pretty much all things.)
Of course, of course. It goes without saying, no?
I'm not a fan of yaoi OR yuri, but I'm certainly not deluded enough to think that either medium is "superior" or "more sensible" than the other!
And that, my friend, is something so important to keep in mind. With het and general romance as well, even. It's all a matter of execution, in my humble opinion. Shit is shit, y'follow my drift? X3
By the way, my dear Mr. What. That little thing of mine is going to undergo a touchup in the next little while. Could I bother you to replace the version you've got when the time comes?