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Title: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: washuchan on August 07, 2003, 08:53:15 pm
I've been following a new show at cartoon network; teen titans

While finding my favourite character, Raven (it must be the hair, although I dislike the whole chakra thing),
I noticed that the style resembles a lot of those from japanese anime; the expressions o_O, ://), X(, O_O etc etc, some slapstick humor, and chibi sequences

Although it got some sharp critism at imdb.com, I think this new style might draw a lot of anime fans back to US cartoon (DC, marvel etc)

Well, do you notice the influence as well?
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Spanner on August 07, 2003, 11:47:50 pm
*Nods* I've seen some of this show as well. I picked up a single issue of the original comic when I was ten years old, and decided to watch this new cartoon to see how it compared to what I remembered. Not very closely, I'll tell you that. ;D

Yeah, the animators for the show were clearly going for an "anime" sort of feel - probably because anime is so in vogue right now. Some times, they let it get a little too out-of-control, but for the most part they seem to realize the proper place for the various anime expressions and actions.

Overall, I rather like the show (my favorite character is probably Starfire - she's got that cute, naive innocence going, just like TV Iffy! ;)) Hopefully, though, they'll decide to add a little more depth to the show; right now, the plots are quite shallow and easy to predict. Which isn't entirely surprising to see in a show aimed at a target audience so young.

I wonder how many fans of the original Teen Titans comic are screaming bloody murder about now? ;D
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Saucer on August 08, 2003, 09:56:48 pm
Teen Titans...... haven't seen it. But, I hear Puffy does the opening theme? ^_^

I kinda thought that anime was dying out of the mainstream and fading back to cult status by now? But, I suppose it still exerts an influence. Before, anime was usually referred to in american animation, rather than emulated.

The influence of manga on american comics however, has always been strong, in things like Blue Monday. And is growing stronger, with the huge influx of "amerimanga" titles these days.
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Spanner on August 10, 2003, 01:28:34 pm
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Teen Titans...... haven't seen it. But, I hear Puffy does the opening theme? ^_^

Yup! A lot of people were excited about that. Though, not being into J-Pop myself, I couldn't really understand why. ^^;

It IS a catchy little ditty, though. Rumor has it that some of the episodes are going to feature the opening theme in Japanese. However, for the three episodes they've shown so far it's been in English each time, so I can't verify this.
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Spanner on August 12, 2003, 08:21:06 am
I made a low-grade movie of the opening for Teen Titans. If anyone is interested in seeing it, let me know and I'll make it temporarily available on my web account. However, I don't want to clutter it, or Rob's public account, by placing it in either place permanently.

It's a decent way to get a feel for the anime-ish style of the show, and to hear some Puffy AmiYumi. ;D
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: MrWhat on August 12, 2003, 08:12:07 pm
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I wonder how many fans of the original Teen Titans comic are screaming bloody murder about now? ;D

I've got a run of a couple dozen issues of the comic from the mid 1980s.  I don't have cable, so I just DLed episode 2, the one with Starfire's sister (and deleted it after previewing it, like a good little boy).

Um... I'm not screaming bloody murder... but I am a wee bit disturbed  ^^;

Aw, it's okay.  My biggest criticism would be, I'd agree with Spanner, it needs to slow down, and develop more depth.  It felt like a 45-minute episode crammed into 23 minutes.

Interesting that the male characters' personalities seemed to be unchanged from the comics... but I don't remember the comics' Starfire being that naive... and the comics' Raven wasn't a snarky Goth girl.
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Spanner on August 12, 2003, 10:37:45 pm
Actually, I'd say Cyborg is at least as changed. In the comic, he wasn't any sort of hulking, brawn-over-brains type as he seems to be in the new cartoon. Actually, he was noted for his high IQ and his intelligent solutions to problems. He was an angry young man, but mostly because he thought of himself as a freak, and resented his father for changing him into a cybord (even if it was to save his life). The Cyborg in the cartoon may have similar traits, but if he does, we haven't seen them yet.

And if you saw Sisters, I'm afraid that you've seen the best, most coherant of the episodes so far. If you thought THIS was overly fast-paced, both the first and third episodes would leave your head spinning. ^^;

No argument with you on Raven and Starfire, though.
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: wanderer_staroxide on August 13, 2003, 07:41:39 am
I've only seen some scans of the original Teen Titans comic, and it's probably just me, or do the comic Teen Titans look much older than a teenager?
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Spanner on August 13, 2003, 08:02:34 am
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I've only seen some scans of the original Teen Titans comic, and it's probably just me, or do the comic Teen Titans look much older than a teenager?

*Chuckles* Just about ALL comic book teenagers look way older than they should. You ever seen pictures of the X-Men's Jubilee? She's supposed to be thirteen years old, but most of the time she looks like she could be pushing twenty. :P

If you're actually interested in learning more about the original Teen Titans, here's a site where you can find way more information than you can choke a horse at:

http://www.titanstower.com
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: washuchan on August 15, 2003, 08:35:07 pm
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And if you saw Sisters, I'm afraid that you've seen the best, most coherant of the episodes so far. If you thought THIS was overly fast-paced, both the first and third episodes would leave your head spinning.  


with the right skill, incoherent pacing/plot can make an excellent drama-comedy. Such is Azumanga Daioh, it's as funny (or funnier) as watching Shaolin Soccer
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Saucer on August 17, 2003, 06:04:25 pm
w00t! An ever so rare reference to Shaolin Soccer! That was quite a movie. ^^;
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: washuchan on September 08, 2003, 04:11:53 pm
teen titans has been running for a while so this topic is back to life

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It IS a catchy little ditty, though. Rumor has it that some of the episodes are going to feature the opening theme in Japanese. However, for the three episodes they've shown so far it's been in English each time, so I can't verify this.


guess what, nevermore opening theme is in Japanese..
Sadly, I miss that episode and Forces of nature where reviews say are the best so far along with switched, sum of his parts....hey, the episodes are improving no?

of course if you're looking for silly laughter, might as well watch extreme elimination challenge (dubbed takeshi's castle footage) instead
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Aya Mikage on September 25, 2003, 10:11:19 pm


There are other US/Disney/Hanna Barbera-made cartoons that have the same animation/drawing styles as anime style..

Disney --> "Witch" a comic book..
Marvel --> "X-men Evolution"
etc...

US animation is boring...
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Tsuzuki Asato on September 26, 2003, 04:21:20 am


It is not only US cartoon, but also Philippine Anime-Manga...

Philippine anime-manga is starting to get noticed... It has similarities on design especially on hair, story,wardrobe.. etc. except the eyes.. Philippine Anime-Manga has smaller and refined eyes unlike Japanese Anime (huge eyes).

Philippine Anime-Manga Titles:

From Culture Crash Comics INC.

    One Day, Isang Diwa One Day, One Diwa
    Pasig
    Kuburi Kikiam
    Cat's Trail


From Questor Extreme Mangamania

    Occhio del Dio
    ...... more...


Questor has more Phil-anime-manga titles but i forgot...

TRY SEARCHING FOR THESE TITLES ON THE WEB AND YOU'LL SEE!
   
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Aya Mikage on September 26, 2003, 10:09:42 pm


Okey Tsuzuki.. I'll be friendly this time.

I have a copy of that Extreme Mangamania from Questor and here are some Phil Anime-Manga titles :

  Gokitomo : My Friend the Cockroach
  Kaidan Nopperabo
  Free Spirits
  Sidesweepers
  Cante Ista
 
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: Ragnarok Addict on September 29, 2003, 07:47:41 am



Phil-AnimeManga Rocks, Men!


I'll give 3 out of 5!
Title: Re: anime influence on US cartoon
Post by: DNAngel Daisuke on October 03, 2003, 01:24:56 am


Phil-Anime Manga is my latest craze next to Japanese Anime..