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General => El-Hazard Online => Topic started by: Lord God Jinnai on July 26, 2003, 02:20:31 am

Title: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on July 26, 2003, 02:20:31 am
Which Jinnai persona did you prefer? The psychotic, deranged personality of the OAV series, or the psychotic, deranged personality of the TV series?

All kidding aside, there were distinct differences between the two. While the OAV Jinnai was a genius of military strategy, TV Jinnai was a genius in... uh... comic book villiany. OAV Jinnai's tactics on the battlefield allowed the Bugrom to conquer several Alliance kingdoms, while TV Jinnai... uh... stole vegetables and dug some tunnels.

Okay, so OAV Jinnai was a bit more successful than his TV counterpart, so what? TV Jinnai had many things going for him as well.

TV Jinnai was a lot less bloodthirsty than his OAV counterpart. TV J seemed to want only recognition of his superiority in the eyes of everyone else, whilst OAV J truly wanted territorial conquest. TV J often gave Roshtaria warning before attacking, while OAV J was mercilless in his sending of OAV Ifurita and his army to attack.

Whilst things went well in the beginning for OAV J, by the OAV's end he pretty much lost. His army was wiped out, his Demon God lost to him; by the end of Alt World, he was even forced to mate with Diva. Ugh.

TV J, even though he had a rocky start, had a better ending. His loyal army was still around, HIS Ifurita was still loyal to him (though tactically this fact isn't very good), and his strategic planning skills seems to have gotten better.

Hmm, this is a very tough decision to make. I guess it merely falls under one's personal tastes. So, which Jinnai did you prefer?
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Spanner on July 26, 2003, 02:38:41 am
As much as I like the Wanderers, I gotta go with classic OAV Jinnai. He's just got that bloodthirsty edge that keeps his evil from becoming TOO comic. TV Jinnai is pretty much Jinnai Lite. Same great taste, but less filling!

(Oh, God, I don't WANT to know what Xel is gonna make of that last line... O_o)

Ahem. Anyway, I love both Jinnai's, but OAV Jinnai just seems the better designed of the two.
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Xel on July 26, 2003, 03:11:52 am
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As much as I like the Wanderers, I gotta go with classic OAV Jinnai. He's just got that bloodthirsty edge that keeps his evil from becoming TOO comic. TV Jinnai is pretty much Jinnai Lite. Same great taste, but less filling!

(Oh, God, I don't WANT to know what Xel is gonna make of that last line... O_o)


*reflexive reaction*
*insert Fatora smiley here* >:3

*responsible reaction*
...Are you insulting Lord Jinnai's mighty prowess, peon?

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Ahem. Anyway, I love both Jinnai's, but OAV Jinnai just seems the better designed of the two.


As for me... hell, I'll take the big, crazy stud any way I can get him.  ;D  But seriously, it really does seem like OAV Jinnai has a lot more fun when he does what he does. Y'know, "good wine, hot babes" and all that. Well, that's assuming that Diva really is anatomically human, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms. ^^
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Tsukasa on July 26, 2003, 02:29:43 pm
OVA Jinnai, the TV Jinnai was indeed to comic book and silent movie villain equse I liked the OVA Jinnai for it showed he did have a tatical mind as he did nearly take over the whoel of EL-Hazard.

It was a same the down graded him in OVA2 and espcaily in Alt World
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Saucer on July 26, 2003, 06:40:48 pm
I'm going to have to go with the OVA Jinnai. In the OVA, he at least showed that he had some grasp of military tactics and strategy. Nearly had all of Roshtaria under his thumb at one point.

TV Jinnai was just a baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaakkkaaa! Stealing vegetables and water and shit. Bravo!
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Tsukasa on July 26, 2003, 08:06:14 pm
^^ indeed the OVA Jinnai wouldn't even cough up a bakkkkkkkkkkaaaaaaaaaaa esque plan like that
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: roshtarian_guard on July 27, 2003, 05:12:57 am
OVA Jinnai. He's a conqueror and all the people of Roshtaria afraid of him  :) And he even defeated my army but not all, I still have plenty of them in my command  ;D
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: executor82 on July 27, 2003, 08:37:07 am
OVA Jinnai! The reasons have already been mentioned  ;D

Definitely OVA Jinnai!
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: washuchan on July 27, 2003, 12:37:09 pm
hmm, I think I'd go with tv Jinnai since he still have traces of kindness in his heart. :)
I'd put a screen cap of his fatherly-figure-peaceful face expression in the end of Wanderers to express this point
(he even gave up the maniacal laughing in the end)
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: kiddo on July 28, 2003, 08:31:11 pm
Definately...

Rob Jinnai. ;P

Seriously, would the OVA or TV Jinnai port El-Hazard to the Game Boy Advance?...

... That just gave me a GENIUS marketing ploy!

"I, THE GREAT AND POWERFUL LORD JINNAI, HAVE CREATED THIS VIDEO GAME TO ROT YOUR MINDS WHILE I CONQUER YOUR PITIFUL WORLD!"
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: frizbon on August 01, 2003, 09:50:18 pm
OVA Jinnai all the way.  

As much flak as OVA 2 and alt world get, few things can match the joy I got out of watching Jinnai in his Bugrom suit.  Why it was there, I don't know... but it was still darn amusing.
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on August 01, 2003, 09:58:54 pm
It also appears that somehow Makoto and co. obtained it later, as Fujisawa appeared to Quawool wearing at least something that looked very much like it.  ;)
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on August 03, 2003, 03:44:10 am
Although I liked both Jinnais, I must go with the TV Lord God. Not because of his personality, or tactics, or even his worth.

He just looks cooler in dark gray. The blue suit he wears in the OAV just ain't my cup of tea.

Btw, that Bugrom suit he wore in the second OAV was ooglie. Thank god he got rid of it.

I liked the cloak he wore in the El-Hazard manga, though. Made him look more like the regal, inter-dimensional conqueror that he was.
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on August 03, 2003, 09:21:39 am
The cape is cool conceptually in the manner you noted, but capes don't work too well with suits... he'd need a different outfit altogether.
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Andrusi on August 15, 2003, 10:55:08 am
TV Jinnai.  Because he knows to eat his vegetables.
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Fujisawa4654 on August 15, 2003, 04:33:37 pm
the OVA or movie Jinnai or whatever, the first one. He was the best ebcause he actually gained PROGRESS blahhhaaaaa!

BLAAAAAAAHAHHHAAAHAHAHHAAA!

BBLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAAAHH*smack*

-_-
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Spanner on August 15, 2003, 11:53:55 pm
You may all laugh at TV Jinnai and his vegetables, but never forget that that "silly" little scheme came an inch away from bringing Roshtaria to its knees. To its KNEES, I tell you!

*Shakes head sadly* That's the trouble with people these days - they never realize the true fiendishness of Pure Evil Genius until it's far too late.
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Fujisawa4654 on August 16, 2003, 12:48:33 am
Yea yea, I realize that, just remember what foiled his plan (MAKOTOOOOOOO!  >:()

There is only one real way to achieve victory! Total carnage, commanding units, applying approporiate strategies and tactics, the conquering, bloodshed, fear, yells of mercy, screams of death, it does me good, those elements ahh...

*cough* Anyway, the first Jinnai (or Jinnai I)is definitely alot better than.. uhh.. was it Jinnai II or Jinnai III? BAH!

I also wouldn't forget broken bones, gore, mutilation...

BLAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA....

Do not deface my skills next time, or doom shall occur, then, we all know when something goes wrong, someone must pay the price right?

RIGHT!?
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on August 16, 2003, 01:15:06 am
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Yea yea, I realize that, just remember what foiled his plan (MAKOTOOOOOOO!  >:()

There is only one real way to achieve victory! Total carnage, commanding units, applying approporiate strategies and tactics, the conquering, bloodshed, fear, yells of mercy, screams of death, it does me good, those elements ahh...

*cough* Anyway, the first Jinnai (or Jinnai I)is definitely alot better than.. uhh.. was it Jinnai II or Jinnai III? BAH!

I also wouldn't forget broken bones, gore, mutilation...

BLAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA....

Do not deface my skills next time, or doom shall occur, then, we all know when something goes wrong, someone must pay the price right?

RIGHT!?


*rubs chin thoughtfully*

Hmmm... this guy reminds me of someone...
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on August 16, 2003, 07:38:34 am
Yes... yes he does.  Have you taken on an apprentice?
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: rowan_a._seven on August 16, 2003, 11:28:26 am
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*Shakes head sadly* That's the trouble with people these days - they never realize the true fiendishness of Pure Evil Genius until it's far too late.



True, and TV Jinnai's plans were surprisingly effective.  However, I do wonder why he just doesn't order TV Ifurita to 'help' the Alliance for a week.  Not only would her presence further complicate Makoto's life and innocently antagonize his other romantic rivals, but Roshtaria would also probably be brought to its knees in the face of an enthusiastic and helpful Demon God Ifurita.  ;D
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Fujisawa4654 on August 16, 2003, 07:04:45 pm
 -_-

I am a real warrior, you are just someone who mocks the almighty!

There is no hiding for you!

*ahem*

BLah blah blah, I KNOW the first Jinnai (or Jinnai I) would WIN! This topic has NOTHING to do with Ifurita!
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on August 21, 2003, 02:17:04 am
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Yes... yes he does.  Have you taken on an apprentice?


No way! More than likely, this poor guy is another Fake Me trying to usurp my throne!

I am the genuine Jinnai! The power of the Lord God flows through me, His genius commands my actions!

You are but a pale imitation! Like discount margarine or RC Cola, your fakeness does not compare to the real thing! You are but a mere 60 watt bulb to my brilliant halogen lamp! BWAH HA HAH HAHAHAHAHA!

Put that up your pipe and smoke it.
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: Andrusi on August 21, 2003, 02:13:41 pm
EHPC Jinnai would pulverize them both with his Map Screen Chibi Bugrom and Amazing Citrus Fruit Dance.  But that's another fight altogether.
Title: Re: Jinnai vs. Jinnai
Post by: xxdemongodifuritaxx on October 10, 2004, 07:04:11 am
TV Jinnai, because I loved it when he picked up Ifurita and carried her out even though she was very very heavy, hehe. and he told her she did a good job. oooohhhh, compliment! *beams* I love my Master. He's all evil and stuff!