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16  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: Major site overhaul for El-Hazard's 15th anniversary on: May 31, 2010, 04:18:50 PM
Honestly, you say that you're glad that we offered up the content, but really, I'm very grateful that you thought it was worth saving.  It really made a grizzled old otaku's shriveled heart glow.  \m/ ^.^ \m/
Of course it was: both you and Spanner put a lot of effort into it. The amount of information you gathered was impressive.  :o
So it'd be a big loss, as your site wasn't backed up in archive.org nor reocities.com.
Believe it or not, when I heard Geocities was closing, the first site I remembered was yours.

And if you're going to be overhauling the site, I might have some content ideas if you want them. But if you're just planning to merge content from The Wanderers' Guide to El-Hazard: The Magnificent World, that's fine too.

Finally, no one said new content would be disallowed around here.  :)

Exactly, do share your ideas with us, and in the meanwhile check out all the "new" pages on the site!
17  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: How do I 'log in' at main site? on: May 31, 2010, 03:36:02 AM
That's because the page doesn't exist yet. Therefore only a wiki user can create it, hence the message.  ;)
As I said in the post about the wiki, some pages weren't done in time for the 15th anniversary.
All the red links in the wiki are empty pages, and therefore on those you'll always get that message. Hopefully they won't be empty for too long.  :P
18  General / El-Hazard Online / Major site overhaul for El-Hazard's 15th anniversary on: May 24, 2010, 06:33:36 PM
In order to celebrate the El-Hazard's 15th anniversary EHOL was completely renovated. Therefore, if everything goes according to plan, you should see a lot of new stuff on the 26/05/2010!

This was something that started with the forum upgrade carried out by Rob and was promised some time ago, but it took longer than expected for two reasons:
  • lack of time (all pages had to be recoded semi-manually);
  • a lot of new content (100+ pages) was included (see changes bellow).

Regarding the latter, EHOL grown a lot thanks to the generosity of Jason Bertovich (Makoto) and Aaron Ziegler (Spanner). They co-authored a fantastic site called The Wanderers' Guide to El-Hazard: The Magnificent world (some of you may remember it, as it used to rival, in a jokingly way, with EHOL), hosted on Geocities. However, after Geocities' shutdown they generously let the content of their site to be ported to EHOL and so it lives on. The main challenge of the merge was that some content was redundant. Therefore, there was considerable effort to maintain things coherent.

Besides the new content, thee main difference between “old” EHOL and “new” EHOL is that the latter is now powered by MediaWiki, instead of a custom Perl-CGI engine.
Despite the conversion to MediaWiki, the EHOL’s interface and decoration was kept as similar as possible to the old one. The skin used still has some minor graphical bugs (if you run EHOL in Firefox/Opera/Safari), but they will be addressed over time.

It should be noted that the site isn’t intended to work as a wiki per se: The anonymous editing and registration are disabled, as well as the toolbox and talk pages. The reason for using MediaWiki is to make the life of the editors easier. With MediaWiki is much easier to upgrade and upload content, correct text errors, etc. Let’s face it, EHOL doesn’t have the user base it had a few years ago (which is understandable), and therefore on the one hand, it has to be managed in an efficient way and on the other hand, if it had public registration it’d be easily vandalized (due to the lack of full time maintainers).

This conversion allowed EHOL to gain new features:
  • Feeds integration – you can now subscribe two feeds: one for the recent changes in the site content and another for new forum posts (that started working when Rob upgraded the forum);
  • IE8 Web Slices (WebChunks in Firefox) support – the navigation sidebar can be made into a Web Slice, which allows you to access EHOL’s main menu easily;
  • Thumbnails are generated dynamically, which increases their overall quality;
  • YouTube video integration at the Goodies/Media section;
  • ISBN search. It’s possible to search an El-Hazard book on select library databases using its ISBN (already provided by us in the book’s page);
  • New introduction section (from Wanderers' Guide to El-Hazard), featuring locales and characters description, as well as a lot more information about El-Hazard;
  • New Radio Dramas guides/summaries (from Wanderers' Guide to El-Hazard and Hitoshi Doi);
  • New Books and Comics (from Wanderers' Guide to El-Hazard);
  • New Cards and Trinkets (at the goodies section - from Wanderers' Guide to El-Hazard).

Some of these pages are uncompleted:
  • The soundtracks section is missing some of the cover scans. This is mainly due to the fact that the old scans were from SonMay/EverAnime (i.e. bootlegs). However, we now have access to the originals, so they need to be scanned and uploaded;
  • The books section is missing the books scans;
  • The Manga and Comics section is also uncompleted (some pages and all book scans);
  • Some images are also missing in the goodies section.

These will be uploaded in the upcoming weeks, as they weren’t done in time for the 15th anniversary.

We do hope you enjoy the new EHOL and are looking forward to hearing from you!
19  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: So How Successful Was El Hazard Back In The Day? on: February 26, 2010, 07:01:25 AM
Not only the narrative, but as mentioned, the visuals in the first OAV are really impressive. The more I watch it (went through a 2nd watch through with my lil sister) the colours and detail are nothing like I've seen in animes before or since.

Animes before seem a little bit dated (such as the first Tenchi Muyo series made previously), but everything after it (including the 2nd OAV) has slightly more faded colours and characters are less detailed. There's something unique in this first OAV. So vibrant and feels a bit more organic.

My first El-Hazard contact was the Wanderers series, and I was already impressed. However, the OVA is just amazing. The detail and quality are difficult to be matched: a lot of efford was put into artwork, soundtrack and, of course, the story.
20  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: How to get the original OAV music without the voices? on: February 26, 2010, 06:55:15 AM
Yeah, I was annoyed about that too back in the day.  But I did find that if you have some method of splitting the audio channels of the OAV's 5.1 track, you can manage to get SOME of the music with minimum to no voice.  I forget which channels do what, but I was able to pull a few bits of otherwise unreleased music this way.  That only works in the original OAV since none of the others have 5.1 audio.  Also I think some of the music was recomposed for that release so it might differ slightly from the original.

Well, I never tried that with El-Hazard, but I know from experience that it may be the front center speaker that you need to cut out.
21  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: Picture request on: February 23, 2010, 05:16:09 PM
Now that would be epic!  ;D
22  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: How to get the original OAV music without the voices? on: February 22, 2010, 04:04:57 PM
No... Sorry!  ^^;

But let me say that despite the price, the 6CD boxset does worth every penny, at least in my opinion.
If you like Karaoke/BGMs that and "Symphonic World" are the CDs to have.
23  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: How to get the original OAV music without the voices? on: February 22, 2010, 02:11:28 PM
If you are referring to the Karaoke versions of the OVA musics, they are available at the 6CD Boxset.
However, this boxset is quite rare and expensive (it appears at eBay once in a while and can reach around $150!). This is the only source for the karaokes since there were no 3'' CD singles released with musics from the OVAs (that I know of).

If you are referring to the music playing in the background of the drama tracks, I don't know if they were released in the 6CD boxset (I'd have to check it by listening to all the music CDs  ^^; )
24  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: Pictures request on: February 15, 2010, 01:03:08 PM
To my knowledge there are no sketches of those creatures, probably due to the fact that they had very little screen time... Sorry  ^^;
25  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: So How Successful Was El Hazard Back In The Day? on: February 10, 2010, 08:25:53 PM
Just remembered this thread about Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha to add to the mix.

So it's safe to conclude that El-Hazard lives on in Japan, since many authors are inspired by it! And it's good to know they're using the best materials for inspiration.  :)
26  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: So How Successful Was El Hazard Back In The Day? on: February 10, 2010, 02:39:37 PM
Hi! Welcome to the forums!
I may not have an accurate vision about how big the franchise and the fanbase was, but I can give you my opinion.
I think that El-Hazard began to be successful originally (i.e. the OVA). I also think that the Wanderers TV series was also successful to a certain extent. The OVA2 and the Alternative World, however, were sequels to the OVA that didn't live up to the expectations (again it's my opinion, and it doesn't mean that I don't like them).

I remember back in the day that there were many sites about El-Hazard (both in Japanese and English), so it did have a popularity peak. However, most of the sites went offline, specially with the demise of Geocities. So, nowadays, apart from Wikipedia and AnimeNewsNetwork one of the only places still talking about El-Hazard is here at EHOL.  ;D

One problem that hinders El-Hazard popularity, in my opinion, is that it didn't follow the usual manga->anime route. Usually, anime is made from a popular manga and therefore it gets a more solid and consistent fanbase.
I don't know if El-Hazard is popular in Japan nowadays, but as for the US, there was a re-release of the DVDs in 2007 by Geneon (OVA 1 and 2 only). However, Geneon went out of business and therefore El-Hazard didn't get the attention it deserved.
I do think it can be considered "Classical/Cult" Anime at this point, and in this context it may be remastered (once again) to Blu-Ray.
27  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: Picture request on: January 28, 2010, 05:35:26 AM
I can see that you already have the shots. However, I see that you don't have a pic of the whole statue. If it pans across several frames on the DVD I can merge them in a single pic (by mapping them).
My only problem ATM is time to do it...  ^^;

BTW, I really like what you wrote there!   ;)
28  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: Picture request on: January 27, 2010, 04:37:38 PM
Who DOESN'T need it?
:D ;D
I realize now that screenshots are better done as capturing pivotal moments or something, not just an every-few-seconds splash.  Supposed to help you remember the episode, not be able to write a comic about it.  Probably ought to find a good way to condense that on the site upgrade.
Not to mention that it'd be a lot easier to browse.  ;)
29  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: Hallo from an italian fan of El-Hazard on: January 27, 2010, 10:07:05 AM
I have seen the first OAV2. The characters are speaking about a great mount called "Hilli Koko(?)" (this could be the italian translation), so I think it could be "Koko Hill"... Actually what is the name of this mount in the english version?

That's Lilicoco Mountain. It's supposedly the mountain that Fujisawa was running away to in order to escape the wedding. It's probably as big as Mt. Muldoon, but the funny thing is we never actually see it in OVA2, or anywhere else for that matter.  ;D
30  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: Hallo from an italian fan of El-Hazard on: January 26, 2010, 06:05:56 AM
Just for information: Could you give me some informations about the places of El-Hazard? I only know the locations in the RPG book. What is the name of the other mountains, rivers etc? Thanks.

Since you are using the map from the Wanderers timeline, there are some locations that only exist there and not on the OVA. However, there's little information about them: It's quite a pity that they didn't make other resource books in English about the other El-Hazard timelines/series....
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