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1  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: So How Successful Was El Hazard Back In The Day? on: October 16, 2015, 03:37:29 AM
Hey there,

So I've just finished watching the first OVA again, and there's that feeling again.

I don't know how to explain it. You know when you watch a film / TV show, or experience a story and it leaves you speechless, like in a daydream. How you are just silent in pure awe? Well, this anime did it to me yet again.

My thoughts are going to be more like a ramble, but I'll try and keep it short. This anime is still great. It's not perfect, but great.

I'll go through the negatives first - the dialog in this anime (the English dub) is just terrible. Not to be confused with the voice acting. The voices for all the characters are perfect, and these guys do the absolute best with the script they've got.

But the writers and translators put in some truly awful dialog to help keep the voices lip synched. Every episode, you see characters repeating phrases and plotpoints, because they can't think of anything original to fill in the lip movements in places. You also get awkward pauses between sentences because of this. One such inconsistency is how Miz mentions to Fujisawa about the pair of them having a wedding, for which Fujisawa thinks little of her words. She mentions them marrying at least one other time and there is no reaction from him. Despite this, when she's in her bed recovering with Fujisawa by her side, mentioning the two of them getting married suddenly causes him to go ape. It's clear this is an inconsistency brought about due to the translators either having a hard time writing a script, or being liberal with changes, which made such affects as this.

The story does sort of drag down at around the middle. The 4th episode, where they're awakening Ifurita, is by far the most boring part for me. It's still good, but I just can't help but feel it drags on a bit.

But then, towards the end, everything goes at breakneck speed. Too fast perhaps. I was expecting them to keep the intensity going a little long i.e. when the bugrum have almost conquered all of El Hazard. But maybe it's better if they leave the audience wanting more.

Final thing; is it me, or does the animation and detail take a hit at the latter half of the ova? The first episode looks absolutely beautiful, but as the series goes on, the animation gets choppier, the detail loosens, and they just seem to be cutting corners.

Well, that's about it. That's the only negatives I can think of with this anime right now.

As for the great things, where to begin.

The story is just fantastic. It can't be appreciated until watching the final episode, where certain things come together i.e. the motivations behind the shadow clan, how Ifurita suddenly becomes a nice persona, and of course, explaining the casual time loop and how the earthlings got to El Hazard in the first place.

As an aspiring writer myself, I really understand and celebrate how very well the plot of this anime is put together. It's complex, but not to the point of being overbearing to the audience, where they can't understand what's going on.

The characters are so well defined here. Their character traits, although somewhat typical, are presented so fantastically. Fujisawa dropping his alcohol and crying "don't blame me, I'm just weak", how Miz constantly goes on about the wedding. Ifurita is the best example. If you really study this story, her character is barely fleshed out at all (not surprising as a robot), and yet, damnit this anime finds a way to make you relate and feel for her with so little. And that's really it. This entire anime seems to achieve a level greater than the sum of its parts in many ways.

I like how it sets things up for the sequel. The shadow clan vow to be back, and Jinnai maintains his ambitions to become the world ruler. Such a pity the OVA2 doesn't take advantage of this, and just creates some terrible fanservicy sequel for those who loved Ifurita.

Despite what I said about the animation taking a hit, this anime is still beautiful. El Hazard is the kind of place one dreams of experiencing. I think I mentioned in a very old post, but I found out about this anime from a 1995 issue of Anime FX. I remember seeing screenshots and being mesmerised with how beautiful and fantastical this anime looked. 20 years later now, and nothing has changed. This anime, during its best moments, is like a dream.

The main music themes are still beautiful. It's a shame the OST is inconsistent though. Some great tracks mixed with a number of forgettable ones.

I still love this anime. I also really liked the alternate world, despite the various anomalies. I guess I'll watch OVA 2 now. I remember being really disappointed with that one. Whilst I'm blown away by this first OVA, it also makes my heart sink how this series' fate went the way it did. If only they'd have jumped straight to the Alternate World as OVA2 (but had written it more coherently), and then created a third OVA to finally explain how Makoto found his way back to Ifurita.

One final thing. I don't know about you Mr Icy EyeG, but I'm a huge video gamer, and I suddenly realise my love of certain games comes from my love of El Hazard. For instance, some of my favourite story driven games include Final Fantasy XII and Nier; the former of which in particular has that Arabian Nights quality sprinkled with Japan's unique influences.

I own El Hazard a lot. It introduced me to anime which in turn caused me to move to Japan many years later.

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That would be a good thing, but I think you mean it has been forgotten due to the huge variety of new Anime that comes out, right? Also I would imagine that the popular Anime genres and styles changed in the last decade, and El-Hazard doesn't fit those anymore.

Well, it's a good and bad thing. For instance, there are anime shows out there that aren't around anymore, but still get frequent praise. Evangelion or Cowboy Beebop for instance. They don't make anymore episodes of those, but they're still vividly remembered by many, and continue to be watched by newer generations. El Hazard, sadly, falls into the category of those that are truly forgotten, and not even mentioned in passing.
2  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: So How Successful Was El Hazard Back In The Day? on: October 01, 2015, 10:51:43 AM
Old post is old, I know, but just a quick update: I'm now living in Japan (have been for about 3 years now) and, sadly, El Hazard is all but forgotten about here, naturally.

As mentioned before, 10 years is a long time in the anime world. Heck, just a year is, actually. There is a RIDICULOUS amount of anime, especially in places like Akihabara, whilst at the same time more and more stores are closing down due to everything going digital.

I actually saw a bunch of laserdiscs of the 2nd series for sale for just a couple of hundred yen (something like 5.00), and I was tempted to by them for the nostalgia factor, but I don't even have a laserdisc player, nor the room to have held onto it.

I'm going to watch the entire first series again now, the first time in years. Really excited to see how it holds up.
3  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: El-Hazard Blu-ray on: October 01, 2015, 10:29:40 AM
Yeah, everyone has moved on... I just randomly remembered this site and found that I could still log on using my very old account.

Never knew there was a blu ray. Then again, blu ray doesn't interest me in the slightest. I only bought my first one a week ago.

I'd be interested in know what the extra features are though. If they are just the music, I'd be interested in knowing if it includes ALL the music from the first OVA, as I remember opening a thread long ago complaining a number of tracks were never made available in any shape or form.
4  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: So How Successful Was El Hazard Back In The Day? on: February 25, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
Not only the narrative, but as mentioned, the visuals in the first OAV are really impressive. The more I watch it (went through a 2nd watch through with my lil sister) the colours and detail are nothing like I've seen in animes before or since.

Animes before seem a little bit dated (such as the first Tenchi Muyo series made previously), but everything after it (including the 2nd OAV) has slightly more faded colours and characters are less detailed. There's something unique in this first OAV. So vibrant and feels a bit more organic.
5  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: How to get the original OAV music without the voices? on: February 25, 2010, 12:02:01 PM
Hey there, just to let people know someone politely uploaded it on another site:

http://forums.ffshrine.org/showpost.php?p=1437638&postcount=1810

Unfortunately it doesn't include all the music from the first OAV (6th disc) such as the music where Shayla Shayla tries to hit on Makoto but Nanami gets in the way, or Miz's introduction (the track I was really after).

*sigh* I guess there never will be a complete soundtrack. I hate it when videogames/ animes do that.
6  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: How to get the original OAV music without the voices? on: February 22, 2010, 02:31:30 PM
Ah, right, sounds like I don't stand much of a chance in getting hold of them. I don't suppose anyone knows of where I can get the music 'rips' mentioned on your link?
7  General / El-Hazard Online / How to get the original OAV music without the voices? on: February 22, 2010, 12:43:04 PM
Yo!

I've gotten hold of the soundtracks but all the music from the first OAV includes voice overs that drown out most of the music. Does anyone know of any soundtracks (legit or even dvd rips) with the music on its own?
8  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: So How Successful Was El Hazard Back In The Day? on: February 11, 2010, 01:14:31 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the feedback. Some really useful information there.

It figures the original creative force left after the first OAV. Whilst the first OAV had it's typical anime elements i.e. the harem anime traits, Jinnia being the ultimate, archetype villain, it just told the story in such a style that felt unique, and the character's dialog and situation were just hilarious.

But the second OAV didn't seem to have that originality at all. I was really disappointed it was as typical as 'Jinnia finds another weapon like Ifurita, but a more powerful one'. Also, whilst it was funny to see Fatora in more detail, but her attempts at making out with the other girls was just a bit too typical, as was Shayla's and Nanami's constant bickering over Makoto which wasn't fleshed out at all.

I think the Alternative World was a step in the right direction, but as stated on this site, the plot holes, and the inconsistent flow let it down.

Anyway, thanks for that roundup. I've wanted to see El Hazard ever since I bought an issue of AnimeFX magazine back in August 1995, and spent 14 years looking in that magazine always wondering what this anime was like.

This issue really made out El Hazard to be the latest big thing, seeing as Tenchi Muyo was apparently the most lauded series at that time, and the creative force behind that was the source of EH, and this is what got me wondering 'is it hype, or is El Hazard that good'?

I finally got to watch it a few weeks back and even after watching so many animes before hand, this one has made a huge impact on me. It was worth the wait. It wasn't just overhyped like many before and since.
9  General / El-Hazard Online / So How Successful Was El Hazard Back In The Day? on: February 10, 2010, 01:28:39 PM
Personally, I think the overall quality of the storytelling and animation in later El Hazard Series and the fact that nothing has come after the Alternative World signifies the success dwindled at some point. But one thing I wonder is how big was the franchise to begin with?

Was El Hazard one of the most successful animes when it was first introduced back in 1995? Or has it always been considered a more obscure one with just a pocket fanbase? Is it still widely remembered and regarded in Japan today?
10  General / El-Hazard Online / Re: Who's your fave El Hazard Character? on: February 07, 2010, 02:21:45 PM
Hello, my first post  :D

Take a guess who mine is? As well as being funny and adorable, her character is consistent in all the series.

Fujisawa gets my vote also. His lines in the first OVA are genius.

*woman screams*

Fujisawa: Oh no! Someone else has run out of alcohol too.

Finally, Alielle also makes me laugh.
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