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General => El-Hazard Online => Topic started by: nirvana on June 29, 2005, 02:33:32 pm

Title: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: nirvana on June 29, 2005, 02:33:32 pm
Considering due to this site that I've been officialy on an El Hazard kick, (XD) I wanted to share with all of you an idea that I once had about a "what if" series continuation to El Hazard...(I thought of this idea about 5 years ago after I finished with all things El Hazard. I wrote this in a notebook then left it to hide in my manga shelve only to be rediscovered...)

It starts off like this: "10 years after the dissappearance of 3 students and 1 teacher at Shinanome High School, many have pondered over the mysterious connection between those disappearances and the ruins beneath the school grounds. Yet, only one young man may have an answer to this riddle. He recalls an early morning when he arriving at school to see a mysterious void with a young man holding a staff, and a mysterious women running towards him and the void. Befuddled by this vision, if it really was one, his obsession in finding out what he saw begins. It leds him back to those ancient ruins and the discovery of one thing; that his vision would prehaps unlocking the key to the Eternal Dream that is known as El Hazard."

(I know this seems stupid but at the time was I so psyched about creating a new story for El Hazard and prehaps one day seeing a new anime being created. Heck, if they made a 3rd OVA to Tenchi, why not El Hazard right? ;) )

More to come of this later...that is if anyone is still interested...
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: nirvana on June 29, 2005, 03:10:16 pm
Ok...now here is the rundown of the new wanderers to enter El Hazard:

-Main Protagonist(Male): With his fondness towards research in literature, he was always excelled academically. However, his fondness towards the outside world wasn't. An exile in society, he prefers to be alone. Alongside his two of his fellow researchers, he ventures into the void that will led him into the dream of those who remember...and perhaps find the world in which he truly belongs...

Description: A shining image of Makoto; only minus the outgoing, people-friendly attitude. Closed slit eyes demonstrate how you can never tell his real emotions...

Power gained in El Hazard: The ability to read ancient script and decipher ruins while speaking in ancient tongue.

-Companion 1 (Female): Though the most beautiful girl in school, she tends to hid this image beneath her coke bottle glasses and chosen male uniform. In attempts to bring our hero out from his shell, she remains by his side dispite all gossip and rumor. She joins him on his expedition to find El Hazard as an opportunity to be more close to him and perhaps admit her true feelings for him...

Description of character: Obvious anime female stereotypes on this girl: Awesome body, cute demeanor, huge round eyes, etc. However, inept at cooking and being quite the chatterbox are her flaws.

Power gained in El Hazard: Her cellphone is a link to finding ancient ruins deep in El Hazard legend. Kinda like an interal GPS service in El Hazard. Not to mention an unknown uncanny connection which allows the user to call back home.

-Companion 2(Male): A ham at best, this wannabe actor and kendo star has always relied on the main protagonist to get him out of an academic jam. A player of women's hearts, he follows our hero journey as a sort of payback for all his lazyness. When arriving in El Hazard, this man will realize that despite all his tricks in presuading the female heart, one women in El Hazard will not be taken so easily.

Description of character: Typical bishi at best. Long hair and attractive. Makes the main character feel out of sorts of what a man should be. Disliked by female companion, he flirts his way out of trouble at most.

Power/Curse gained in El Hazard: A wooden sword which he brings into EL Hazard becomes "The Blade of the King", a morphing blade at his thought and whim of the user which is said to cut even the strongest of Bugrom armor. His curse however is amusing: should he try to flirt with a women whom he isn't true to, he sneezes uncontrolably.

(More to come later... ;) )    
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: nirvana on June 29, 2005, 05:25:42 pm
And now, the continuation of the new cast: (Sorry...had to deal with some business online.)

-Main Antagonist (Female): Though born of a higher class status than of her classmates, being jaded and brutal is what makes her disliked by all. Currently the new president of the student council at Shinanome, she follows in the shadow of "the greatest student council president this school has ever embraced." Has an infatuation with the hero's female companion, she hopes to bring her into her world and make her hers...

Description: Female Jinnai...what more could be said. Instead of cackling like crazy, she laughs deeply like "HOHOHOHO! *Think Naga from Slayers type laugh* Curly pigtails (probably wound too tightly in association with her uptight attitude) with a punishing harisen (paper fan) to promote her brutal presidental standings in the school.

Power gained in El Hazard: Mind control through persuasive dialogue.

Henchman Lackey (Male): Second rate at everything, has always disliked the successes of the main protagonist. Secretary to the current class president, he informs her of the "illegial activities" being taken by the protagonist group and wishes to halt his research in an attempt to ruin the main hero. Cowardly, he hids between the skirt of the president, often to call a "little bitch."

Description: Beady eyed, short statured, greasy haired loser at best. Carries a notebook around to jot down the president's every condition/command. Snickers like a chipmunk when excited, his only vice is the consist success of his "eternal rival" and a suger high.

Power gained in El Hazard: Described foresight within his notebook, detailing what's to happen next.        
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on June 29, 2005, 07:30:23 pm
Y'know, this is very interesting.  I never really thought to take the approach of an Earthian third party to El-Hazard before.  Kind of interesting to have someone on the outside view things and [initially] have no real idea about the stuff that happened...

Of course, with all the fanfiction out there, I can't promise it's never been done before.  But at least this is the first time I've heard of it and I like it.
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: nirvana on June 30, 2005, 01:28:22 am
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Y'know, this is very interesting.  I never really thought to take the approach of an Earthian third party to El-Hazard before.  Kind of interesting to have someone on the outside view things and [initially] have no real idea about the stuff that happened...

Of course, with all the fanfiction out there, I can't promise it's never been done before.  But at least this is the first time I've heard of it and I like it.
Thank you sir...hearing this from a fellow fan means alot to me. :) Though as you could tell, these were simple ideas that I jotted down on my notebook whenever I thought of something. This was only just a work in progress that I never found the time nor the reason to finish it...until now...

What I would need to do now is figure out how El Hazard has been for the last 10 years? I never really got to that part when originally planning this epic... ^^;
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: stinko on June 30, 2005, 06:28:29 am
Considering the fact that Ifurita sent Makoto and the others to El Hazard before she even left it, the mode of transportation to El Hazard crosses over time as well as dimensions (otherwise Makoto would have gotten there 10,000 years too late). Even if these people leave to El Hazard 10 years after Makoto, you do not necessarily need to make them arive 10 years later.
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on June 30, 2005, 08:51:36 am
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Considering the fact that Ifurita sent Makoto and the others to El Hazard before she even left it, the mode of transportation to El Hazard crosses over time as well as dimensions (otherwise Makoto would have gotten there 10,000 years too late). Even if these people leave to El Hazard 10 years after Makoto, you do not necessarily need to make them arive 10 years later.


Of course not.  But there's a certain element of "fun" we can derive from having an outside party kind of step into the mess late.
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: nirvana on July 06, 2005, 03:49:53 am
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Considering the fact that Ifurita sent Makoto and the others to El Hazard before she even left it, the mode of transportation to El Hazard crosses over time as well as dimensions (otherwise Makoto would have gotten there 10,000 years too late). Even if these people leave to El Hazard 10 years after Makoto, you do not necessarily need to make them arive 10 years later.
True...but I happen to feel that the dimension hopping nexus provided by Makoto when he returns to pick up Ifurita must be about a 10 year or so period IMO. So it would be logical within the laws of the anime universe right? ;)
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: kajishima_masaki on August 23, 2005, 10:39:09 am
That does sound interesting, people investigating what happened to the Makoto, Jinnai, Nanami, and Fujisawa. You know I think Fujisawa made an appearance in Tenchi In Tokyo. Tenchi Muyo should've referenced this in their series, like there would be an article or news of 4 people disappearing, and Tenchi gets surprised learning a teacher of his went missing. That would really be funny. Oh by the way, do you have a surrogate Fujisawa in your story? That would be cool another teacher disappears. Maybe you could put a private investigator in place of Fujisawa. A X-Files like guy, or a paranoid guy, that would be interesting.
Title: Possibilities....
Post by: kalia_rocks on August 25, 2005, 07:02:00 pm
Maybe you can somehow include the radio drama in this story. The Ifurina's Cafe and all that. And don't forget about the phantom tribe, maybe something about a backup plan of Galous' that will be initiated just in time for the party to drop in and ruin it??

Gives me idea's for the El-Hazard Campaign I'm running right now.

Hohohohohoooo!!
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: nirvana on August 27, 2005, 03:24:37 am
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That does sound interesting, people investigating what happened to the Makoto, Jinnai, Nanami, and Fujisawa. You know I think Fujisawa made an appearance in Tenchi In Tokyo. Tenchi Muyo should've referenced this in their series, like there would be an article or news of 4 people disappearing, and Tenchi gets surprised learning a teacher of his went missing. That would really be funny. Oh by the way, do you have a surrogate Fujisawa in your story? That would be cool another teacher disappears. Maybe you could put a private investigator in place of Fujisawa. A X-Files like guy, or a paranoid guy, that would be interesting.
Hmmm...that is something to think about. However, I wasn't really going for any adults to accompany our hero's this time around. Their personal independance in making the decision to travel to El Hazard was one issue I was focusing on at the time I was writing this...
Title: Re: Possibilities....
Post by: nirvana on August 27, 2005, 03:26:32 am
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Gives me idea's for the El-Hazard Campaign I'm running right now.

Hohohohohoooo!!
-_- Well...if you plan to do anything with my story, be sure to give credit when credit is due alright...that or explain to me this "campaign" you are doing...
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: Wayne on August 28, 2005, 02:28:38 am
I'm guessing an anime-based P&P game, like BESM. (I-- a longtime D&D player-- recently got into BESM d20 for some online IRC-based games with some friends, and it's actually pretty interesting. Not exactly balanced, but I digress....)

That's an interesting concept, Nirvana; have you written any of it yet? :]

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Since we're sharing, I guess it wouldn't hurt to toss this in....

I don't write fanfiction anymore, but I used to; and after getting into El-Hazard I'd thought about writing something for it, too. The idea never got off the ground, but in concept it was fairly epic... some sort of plot that basically tied most of the series together.

Like there were multiple active demon gods (the ones from the manga, the three Ifuritas, etc.), and they fought each other a lot. [Since my style focuses a lot on action sequences, there'd have been a lot of them.] The Shadow Tribe was a more entrenched [and dangerous] enemy; more of a three-way war with the Alliance and the Bugrom (more like the manga, again). There were four Priestesses (Ishiel-- from the game-- and Miz were to be sort of a love triangle with Fujisawa for some requisite comedy), and Shayla, Qawoor, and Nanami were rivals for Makoto instead of one of the Ifuritas or Rune... sort of new. Cretaria was a neighboring kingdom instead of another world completely. The "dark technology" of the ancient El-Hazardians was more unified; Arjah-- the "main villain," one could say-- for example, was a demon god whose unique power was to counter the Eye of God (and it was Kalia who could control it, instead of OAV Ifurita), etc.

I still have some ideas in my mind for it, and on some level it might be fun to actually write it some day and try my hand at making the setting and characters actually make sense (something the staff was clearly unable to do with TAW :[ ) in a unified story, but... probably not. Once every couple weeks I'll still see a scene in my mind's eye (like a Shadow Tribe assassin sent to kill Yuba [or whatever he was called], which ends with him using technology against Ifurita, an obviously much more powerful being), but it's seldom anymore. Too many other things to do. *chuckles*

Ah... anyway. I guess that ramble was just to say that there's nothing wrong with thinking about adding to the "canon" of something you like, and that you're in good company. ...or something. :]
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: nirvana on August 28, 2005, 03:49:43 am
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That's an interesting concept, Nirvana; have you written any of it yet? :]]
Some of it...I've written the prologue and a few key scenes...aside from that, nothing really more than that...I was still in the middle of naming my intrepid group of wanderers :'(
Title: Naming my Wanderers...
Post by: nirvana on August 28, 2005, 04:13:46 am
Well...it was a long time coming for this day personally. But thanks to your comments and my undying love of the El Hazard universe, I've decided to "officially" name my intrepid group of wanderers. XD A little background info on why I choose the following names; I was reading a TIME magazine article about the surviviors of the Hiroshima bombing. According to the article, they were dubbed as the "Hibakusha" - "those who survived the day when the world goes dark". In a sense of the El Hazard universe, it will be those whom come out to challenge the darkness of their old world/lives and step into the light of a new day/new world that'll make their journey to El Hazard a memorable one. So, without further delay, my "official" naming of the principal cast of "El-Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers"

Main Protagonist(Male): Morio Iwata (Nickname: Mori-chan)

Female Companion: Kinuyo Watanebe (Nickname: Kiyo)
Male

Male Companion: Jiro Tatsumoto (Nickname: Tatsu)

Main Antagonist(Female): Hiroko Konishi (Nickname: Konishi)

Henchman Lackey (Male): Yuji Egusa (Nickname: Little Bitch XD)

So...what do you guys think?
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: kalia_rocks on August 29, 2005, 10:46:36 am
Great!

I'm running a Besm campaign with the El-Hazard TriStat Book. It involves a Phantom Tribe women who only wants to make money, a Man and his DaFub's (think evolved Dolphin Bears) who salvage and explore ruins for loots, both native to El-Hazard. And one guy who gets really drunk on Earth, and after a dizzying transition effect, involving Greys(rosewell) wakes up in the Desert of Bleached Bones and finds out that he now has a socket on his back(Demon God).......yeah.
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: kajishima_masaki on October 28, 2005, 11:08:13 am
Well, I have these ideas for an adult or surrogate Fujisawa accompanying them.

First idea: A teacher, female teacher this time, who is very sexy and likes to act cool to her students and a bit tomboyish, but all the guys like her, but she still takes pride in her work, and is smart, and she loves parties, sports, drinking and having fun. Typical character, popular, big front, short hair, easy going, a bit rude, and speaks in a Kansai accent. Says something like: "When I was still a teenager, I was never the most popular, always the shy, glasses wearing student sitting in the corner, that's why I became a teacher, so I can be popular, even as an adult!(Flashes V-sign)" The female protaganist always argues with her, saying that she is not doing her job seriously, and is a bit of disgrace.

Another idea: A private investigator, who is very serious, and looks mean and vicious, but he is a gentle giant, he is a Japanese-Filipino man, with a physique that of Mickey Rourke of Sin City, except he isn't crazy with a condition, but he has a sad past, when he was a 15 year old, his younger sister disappeared while he was playing basketball, when he was supposed to pick her up, and somehow forgot. After the police failed in finding her, and he spent the rest of his puberty searching for her, even dropping out of school day and night searching, until he gave up and lived with regret, for his remaining teen days, he repeated high school in Japan at 18, with his Uncle and Aunt, because his parent couldn't take care of him,  he is somewhere near 50, and he decided to search for the students in someway to atone for himself, but he always feels guilt and torment.  He decided to take on the case of the missing students and teacher, and he took it seriously after hearing the sad pleading words of Makoto's parents, and after hearing from them, he keeps hearing his parents grief when his sister disappeared, so he decides to look for them and hopes to find them. And he keeps telling the students to stop searching because they might get lost too. The investigator is tall like 6ft something, light dark skin, hails from Mindanao, and is Muslim.
What do ya think?
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: nirvana on November 07, 2005, 12:35:19 am
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Well, I have these ideas for an adult or surrogate Fujisawa accompanying them.

First idea: A teacher, female teacher this time, who is very sexy and likes to act cool to her students and a bit tomboyish, but all the guys like her, but she still takes pride in her work, and is smart, and she loves parties, sports, drinking and having fun. Typical character, popular, big front, short hair, easy going, a bit rude, and speaks in a Kansai accent. Says something like: "When I was still a teenager, I was never the most popular, always the shy, glasses wearing student sitting in the corner, that's why I became a teacher, so I can be popular, even as an adult!(Flashes V-sign)" The female protaganist always argues with her, saying that she is not doing her job seriously, and is a bit of disgrace.

Another idea: A private investigator, who is very serious, and looks mean and vicious, but he is a gentle giant, he is a Japanese-Filipino man, with a physique that of Mickey Rourke of Sin City, except he isn't crazy with a condition, but he has a sad past, when he was a 15 year old, his younger sister disappeared while he was playing basketball, when he was supposed to pick her up, and somehow forgot. After the police failed in finding her, and he spent the rest of his puberty searching for her, even dropping out of school day and night searching, until he gave up and lived with regret, for his remaining teen days, he repeated high school in Japan at 18, with his Uncle and Aunt, because his parent couldn't take care of him,  he is somewhere near 50, and he decided to search for the students in someway to atone for himself, but he always feels guilt and torment.  He decided to take on the case of the missing students and teacher, and he took it seriously after hearing the sad pleading words of Makoto's parents, and after hearing from them, he keeps hearing his parents grief when his sister disappeared, so he decides to look for them and hopes to find them. And he keeps telling the students to stop searching because they might get lost too. The investigator is tall like 6ft something, light dark skin, hails from Mindanao, and is Muslim.
What do ya think?

Nice ideas there Kaji. Though I really just wanted the kid's to show themselves as independent, away from the adults and out on their own. Kinda reflected how I felt at the time when I wrote this... ^^;  
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: kajishima_masaki on November 08, 2005, 09:39:47 am
Hehehehehe, that's okay, it's just that after bringing such a topic, that does seem like a plothole, what has happened to real world after the four disappeared? I still say they should reference El Hazard in another AIC title, like put a news or interview on how sad most of the students and teachers are of their disappearance, except maybe for Jinnai, they won't miss him. And another funny thing, they make a theory on how Fujisawa disappeared, saying he go drunk and ended up kidnapped by modern day pirates or something. Another idea, a seemingly insane conspiracy theorist gets involved. And gets in the way.
Title: Re: El Hazard: The Eternal Dreamers
Post by: nirvana on November 08, 2005, 07:04:49 pm
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Hehehehehe, that's okay, it's just that after bringing such a topic, that does seem like a plothole, what has happened to real world after the four disappeared? I still say they should reference El Hazard in another AIC title, like put a news or interview on how sad most of the students and teachers are of their disappearance, except maybe for Jinnai, they won't miss him. And another funny thing, they make a theory on how Fujisawa disappeared, saying he go drunk and ended up kidnapped by modern day pirates or something. Another idea, a seemingly insane conspiracy theorist gets involved. And gets in the way.


Actually, I've figured that out! If you've read the introduction on my first post, you'll remember that my main male protagonist Morio remembers seeing a mysterious void opening up with Makoto and Ifurita leaving to go back to El-Hazard one early morning. This becomes his obession for the next four years to know what was the cause of that and thus sets the stage for him following Makoto's footsteps.  :D