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General => El-Hazard Online => Topic started by: js_morris on January 14, 2004, 01:59:01 pm

Title: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: js_morris on January 14, 2004, 01:59:01 pm
One of the EH art books ("Etranger") is up for grabs on eBay (auction closes January 20).

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3267098791&category=1345

JSM
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on January 14, 2004, 03:56:28 pm
I'm curious how many people here are really collectors... I know collecting this stuff is very trying and expensive, part of the reason I made it open to the public on this site.  :P

But seriously, out of curiosity, are any of you guys collectors, truly or potentially?
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: rowan_a._seven on January 14, 2004, 04:09:24 pm
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But seriously, out of curiosity, are any of you guys collectors, truly or potentially?


I'd have to reply with a negative.  I love the series and might buy the manga someday, but as for collecting special novelty items...probably only if they're fairly inexpensive and can be procured without too much difficulty.
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: theravenisdead on January 14, 2004, 04:45:13 pm
If I had the cash I'd be stockpiling, no question. But Im poor  ^^; -_-
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Wayne on January 14, 2004, 08:52:47 pm
Being a pragmatic bloke, I tend to only collect things I can use. And as Japanese characters might as well be cuneiform for all I know of the language... I probably won't collect anything El-Hazard. *chuckles*

Don't get me wrong, though; I'm definitely grateful to you for being able to check out the scans ("Ooh, purty pictures!") even if I can't make heads or tails out of the text.
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on January 14, 2004, 09:19:00 pm
I know, Wayne.  But on the other hand, it's El-Hazard merchandise, and I'm just the type crazy enough to want it for that reason alone.  Although knowing I can't understand Japanese is what put off buying the radio drama for a long time ... until Tim found it real cheap somewhere.  :B
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Wayne on January 14, 2004, 10:00:52 pm
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I'm just the type crazy enough to want it for that reason alone.


Hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. :) And I was a bit hasty myself with the whole "useful" clause-- I like swords, for example, and over the years I've picked up two katana, a broadsword, a wakizashi, two daggers (one's a Japanese tanto) and a rapier (and I'd have more, but they're pretty bloody expensive, heh). And it's not like I'll ever go ahead slicing people up, so.... *chuckles*

At least you picked a good series, though. :D One of my friends is a hardcore Evangelion fanboy, and has collected hundreds of dollars worth of periphery from that series-- I don't know if you like it or not, but I never did; so I always thought that was pretty funny (of course, everyone has eccentricities, heh).
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on January 15, 2004, 05:22:49 pm
I never saw it.  Apparently there's this law in my life that prevents me from watching anything that's mainstream.  That is, I've never seen Big-O, Evangelion, OMG!, Tenchi Muyo [any], etc. and I've never completely watched Cowboy Bebop, Sailor Moon, DBZ, and other shows like that.  Basically, the only shows I watch are under circumstance.


What I have seen:

Irresponsible Captain Tylor - Sister: "Hey, Bob, you should see this show I bought while I was at school."

El-Hazard - AIM Buddy: "Hey, Rob, you should see this music video I just downloaded."

Hand Maid May - "Nanbara is voiced by Bob Marx (Jinnai's English VA)."  (And incidentally Nanami's VA and Afura's VA also featured)

Tokyo Revelation - Bob Marx again. (And incidentally Makoto's VA and Alielle's VA also featured)

Etc.
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Wayne on January 15, 2004, 05:42:27 pm
:o So... you're like an inverse otaku or something, then? :D That's pretty wild. Again, nothing at all wrong with it... I'm just surprised. *chuckles*

I liked the original Tenchi Muyo! OAVs (*points to Kagato avatar*)... it's similar to El Hazard in several ways, and was one of the first anime I've ever seen... I'd recommend it, if you ever get the chance. Ah! My Goddess is very shoujo... I'm almost certain I only really like it because it balances out the gaping void in my psyche left by the scarring of DBZ, Scryed, Bubblegum Crisis, and so on, heh.

But for the most part, while I have watched mainstream anime (pretty much everything that came on CN, anyway) the only one I've really liked was Inuyasha. Even popular anime in Japan (like Naruto) I haven't really liked. So in some ways you're not missing all that much. :]

Going somewhat back on topic... were there ever any English El-Hazard books made (even unofficially)? Besides the manga/graphic novels, of course. I doubt it (and I think you said so somewhere else on the site, Rob), but I just wanted to check; and I've seen some English anime material recently, which reminded me.
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on January 16, 2004, 12:17:51 am
El-Hazard, unlike some other animes, was not made out of a manga.  (It was produced direct to OAV.)  Therefore, the only manga of it is unofficial.  However, once you take out doujins, the only thing left is Tsubara's work and "comicifications" of the series.  That is, after they were produced, someone took the cels from the show and applied a computer filter to them to look like they were manga art.  (Although someone who owns them and posted about them said they at least have a little bit of original art here and there.)  There are also novelizations of El-Hazard, but again just based on what was already made.

The comicifications I don't seem much value in, but the novels might've been interesting.  Unfortuantely, they're all in Japanese except Tsubara's work.

OT, Tsubara's style can be summarized this way: "He's a good artist, but he's really facinated with boobies."
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: js_morris on January 16, 2004, 03:37:55 pm
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OT, Tsubara's style can be summarized this way: "He's a good artist, but he's really facinated with boobies."


God bless 'im.  ;D

Question--does anyone really care about this stuff? Only reason I posted this one and the last was that I thought someone might be interested in getting it. But if it's an annoyance, I'll stop.

JSM
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Wayne on January 16, 2004, 03:49:36 pm
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El-Hazard, unlike some other animes, was not made out of a manga.  (It was produced direct to OAV.)  Therefore, the only manga of it is unofficial.


I did know that first bit (that the manga was made following the anime), but not the second-- I guess when I saw a Viz-published series manga I automatically assumed it was "official." *chuckles* I've never seen the Viz version anywhere out here, but then; I do live in the middle-of-nowhere Missouri. :|

Morris (or would it be JS? :D)-- Nah, don't worry about it. I'm not much for Japanese goods or E-Bay (besides music, heh); but it is helpful to know for anyone who is (not everybody is going to keep looking out for rare El Hazard material; and posting notices like this is very helpful). If I came off as not being appreciative, it was probably just because I was answering Rob's original question ("Anyone interesting in collecting this stuff?").
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Saucer on January 16, 2004, 10:36:05 pm
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I'm curious how many people here are really collectors... I know collecting this stuff is very trying and expensive, part of the reason I made it open to the public on this site.  :P

But seriously, out of curiosity, are any of you guys collectors, truly or potentially?

I'm not much of acollector. I prefer to spend my money on more videos rather than merchandise. El Hazard is the exception, of course. ^_^ Althogh the only thing's  really have are the manga, AIC Comic anthology and TV artbook. I really wish I had the OVA artbook, but I don't feel like fooling around with eBay.
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: js_morris on January 17, 2004, 03:39:51 pm
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Morris (or would it be JS? :D)-- Nah, don't worry about it. I'm not much for Japanese goods or E-Bay (besides music, heh); but it is helpful to know for anyone who is (not everybody is going to keep looking out for rare El Hazard material; and posting notices like this is very helpful).


Jeff is fine. I answer to practically anything. :)

I like to collect stuff related to the various series I'm interested in; right now I'm tracking down the four "Haibane Renmei" doujinshi the anime was based on (I've got two right now and a line on the other two). I think it's partly due to seeing the artwork and concepts, and partly the "thrill of the hunt". :)

JSM
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Tsukasa on February 13, 2004, 09:43:30 pm
I would bid on it but  ;Dalready have the art book in question I am keeping my eye out for the Alt World one

I guess they never made a ova 2 art book did they?
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on February 14, 2004, 01:44:57 am
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I guess they never made a ova 2 art book did they?


Hmm, not that I know of.  Though I suspect I've probably seen developmental materials related to it in the other books... at the moment I simply can't seem to remember whether or not OAV2 appeared where in the books, but I'm darn sure it was in there somewhere.  :P

As for the Alt World book... good luck.  I swear the thing only surfaces once every 6 months to a year on eBay.  You guys are lucky that I happened to get it.  :P
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Tsukasa on February 14, 2004, 04:32:25 pm
I know it's mostly none of the OVA1 books or Wanderers ones.

Why I thought it woudl be the Alt World book.    :bawl I like the designs in OVA2 all I want is a art book of it
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: js_morris on February 26, 2004, 02:56:02 pm
Question...

I vaguely recall that someone said one particular art book is very hard to find...

...and I realize I'm dooming myself if this happens to be the one...

but is this the one in question?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3276491239

JSM
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on February 26, 2004, 03:57:24 pm
... I'm ... not quite sure what that is.  It looks interesting, although it suggests a couple possibilities of what it is.
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: js_morris on February 26, 2004, 04:44:08 pm
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... I'm ... not quite sure what that is.  It looks interesting, although it suggests a couple possibilities of what it is.


Be grateful I didn't include any links to the three hentai doujinshi out there. :)

Posted about 1/2 hour later..

Never mind. I see you've already...archived them...

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to wash my brain with acid to remove a particular image dealing with "Altnerative Equipment"...


JSM
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Makoto Mizuhara on February 26, 2004, 10:10:23 pm
It's not an artbook and unless you must own every single scrap of El-Hazard merchandise, it's nto even worth owning.

It's book #3 of a a three book set of what could be called "tele-Manga."

Basically all they did was cut, crop, and paste a bunch of screen shots from the 1st OVA and added word balloons.  -_-

Damn, am I being a buzzkill these days?
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on February 26, 2004, 10:35:49 pm
No, okay, that's what I figured it was.  I call those the "comicifications" of the series.  I don't care, as long as I know what it is.  Though I did hear from someone that they have a few nice images in there anyway?
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: js_morris on February 27, 2004, 09:11:47 am
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It's not an artbook and unless you must own every single scrap of El-Hazard merchandise, it's nto even worth owning.

It's book #3 of a a three book set of what could be called "tele-Manga."

Basically all they did was cut, crop, and paste a bunch of screen shots from the 1st OVA and added word balloons.  -_-

Damn, am I being a buzzkill these days?


No, you just saved me at least $20. Much appreciated.

JSM
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Makoto Mizuhara on February 27, 2004, 09:50:07 am
My work here is done... ^_^V

Away!

*woosh*
Title: Re: El Hazard Artbook on Ebay
Post by: Saucer on February 29, 2004, 04:37:47 pm
Film comics usually are a yet another cog in the anime merchandising machine, especially when there's already an exisiting manga for the franchise. But if they're really well done, they can be a nice little addition to a collection of your favorite series. I have a few nice ones of Urusei Yatsura and Megazone 23. It's pretty common for nearly every Studio Ghibli film to get the film comic treatment. The Utena movie "Apocalypse of Adolesence" also got the film comic treatment, though Chiho Saito later drew a new manga for it as well.

But film comics can also be original creations. There have been a couple mecha manga that were done by building diorama sets and models and photographing them. There are also occasionally stories done using actors and models who pose before the camera. The rockstar manga that Ilpallazo is reading in one of the earlier episodes of Excel Saga is a reference to this type of film comic.