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General => El-Hazard Online => Topic started by: Lord God Jinnai on September 11, 2003, 01:40:21 am
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Okay, now that we've discussed the whor... er, I mean, women who are the main contenders for the affections of that wimpy little doofus Makoto, let us talk about the numerous love interests of the great and wonderful Lord God Grand Chancellor Emperor of All Who Live, Katsuhiko Jinnai.
First off, there's Diva. A lot of people set Jinnai up with her for some reason. Then there's... uh...
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Grrrrrrrr... WELL?! What the hell are you guys waiting for? DISCUSS, DAMN IT!
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Clearly, the two shrine maidens of the Shrine of Fire in the Wanderers have the hots for Jinnai. I mean, how could they not, after seeing the sheer brilliance and ruthless ease by which he
swindled fairly won the Shrine of Fire from their no-good drunken reprobate of an employer Shayla-Shayla?
Yeah, if Jinnai would lower himself to having any kind of interest in that kinda thing, they'd be all over him, doing all kinds of unspeakably naughty things to him and to each other solely for his gratification and pleasure. *Nods* Awww jjjjyeeaaahh... 8)
But really, is there ANY female in El-Hazard who could possibly resist Jinnai's infinite charisma and charm? Probably the only reason the guy doesn't have to beat them off with a stick is because most of them drown trying to cross the Great Holy River of God, drawn like lemmings to their deaths just for the barest hope of a peek at his magnificence. Damn, the guy needs to make himself more accessable!
Sure, Shayla beat the crap out of him in Alt. World. It's all just denial, though. You KNOW she wants him, too.
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(http://www.el-hazardonline.net/El-Hazard/temp/rob/jinnaishayla.gif)
Ever since "Fault", I've loved the idea of a Jinnai/Shayla pair. However this has more superficial reasons than good ones. Somehow I see the rage-y Jinnai and the rage-y Shayla getting along. And red and black (hair) seem to go together so nicely. Now, of course, for this to really work, it'd require Shayla to have given up on her priesthood or something because I doubt it'd sit well that a high priestess was dating the most evil dictator of the world. That would probably also seperate her from her friends and everything else... so a proper setup would kind of require her life as she knows it to be over first. ^^;
But in all seriousness it's the only woman I really see working out with Jinnai. A lot of people like Diva as the pairee, but I dunno... her interests are still very insectoid ("I'm the queen, and if I need something for the hive, I get it.") It rarely seems like she really has an affectionate interest in Jinnai. Only militaristic maybe. Although Jinnai does seem to ward a certain amount of control over her eventually, but that's probably just due to his generally good track record right off the bat.
Actually it really is kind of like that. Anyone that we know of who'd pair with Jinnai except Diva would kind of be screwing up their base life by joining with "the bad guy". We need some more humans on Bugrom side. :P (Didn't someone suggest that once? Human spies for the Bugrom hiding along the river's edge or something? Was that the RPG book?) That probably makes for some very interesting story material, but I digress.
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I can only second the motion for the Jinnai/Shayla pairing! After all, I think Jinnai's egotistical nature might not work well with Diva, after all they're both power-hungry evil dictators (one more so than the other) and I feel that thier relationship would only end in some very serious relationship counseling...
Meanwhile, anyone who's ever read "Fault" wil clearly recognize the potential that Jinnai and Shayla have for each other, even if it is a kind of "love-hate" relationship. The only thing that I can add to that is that they would both have to do some mutual growth in order to learn to tolerate each other's presence for too long. But I can't say it wouldn't be BUTTKICKINGLY COOL to have a story where Jinnai gives up his entire bugrom empire based on his feelings for a woman... ;D
... Or maybe not, don't kill me Jinnai-sama! ^^;
Also an idea I've had is Jinnai and Ifurita getting together. After all, he does seem to like bossing her around and has a sort of detached fondness for her (end of Wanderers, *_* Cutest scene EVER) So maybe with a little modification on Ifurita's part tey could make a couple... someday... ok, maybe not.. :P It;s just a suggestion anyways. All those EHOL-lings who wish to, please feel free to maim me now! 8)
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But I can't say it wouldn't be BUTTKICKINGLY COOL to have a story where Jinnai gives up his entire bugrom empire based on his feelings for a woman... ;D
Heh. I never thought of taking it that direction. But I guess if you get rid of Jinnai, the Bugrom are as disorganized as they were before he got there. That would kind of ruin the badguy element. But it would be a potentially very touching story.
Also an idea I've had is Jinnai and Ifurita getting together. After all, he does seem to like bossing her around and has a sort of detached fondness for her (end of Wanderers, *_* Cutest scene EVER) So maybe with a little modification on Ifurita's part tey could make a couple... someday... ok, maybe not.. :P It;s just a suggestion anyways.
Personally I always saw the Ifurita/Jinnai dynamics of Wanderers more like Father-Daughter. After all, end of Wanderers, what does he say when his face turns all non-insaney? "You did a good job."
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Personally I always saw the Ifurita/Jinnai dynamics of Wanderers more like Father-Daughter. After all, end of Wanderers, what does he say when his face turns all non-insaney? "You did a good job."
Actually, I'm quite convinced that was the dubbers fault. I'm sure what he really said was "I'd like to suck your ****"
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*is beaten by the entire congregation of EHOLies
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And I thought to myself, "I might want to check out the subtitles just to make sure no one tries to be a smart-ass referencing the original audio."
(http://www.el-hazardonline.net/El-Hazard/temp/rob/goodjob.JPG)
CLOSE ENOUGH. :p
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^^; Well, yeah, but he could be inferring something... *laughs out loud at her own stupidity*
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"You did a good job" could be more easily misconstrued. :P
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Ugh, I'm getting sick. You people are setting me up with Shayla?! That violent she-hag is sooo below my league that she'd be trampled underfoot every morning. That red-headed pyrofreak can't even hold a candle towards me! That butch harpy is like Bugrom feces compared to me! That annoying stinking... woman is so... not... DAMN! I ran out of descriptive adjectives!
Personally I always saw the Ifurita/Jinnai dynamics of Wanderers more like Father-Daughter. After all, end of Wanderers, what does he say when his face turns all non-insaney? "You did a good job."
You're both wrong! Our relationship is neither father/daughter, nor boyfriend/girlfriend. We have a much more special and sacred relationship, one that is rare and memorable among the bonds shared between men and women.
The relationship I speak of is of course that of Master and his loyal, eager-to-please Slave! Bwah hahahahaha! Yes! It is truly a beautiful and excuisite kinship my Demon Doll and I share.
I say "JUMP" and she says, "How high?"
Ifurita: How high!
I say "RUN!" and she says, "How far?"
Ifurita: How far!
I say, "KILL!" and she says, "How many?"
Ifurita: zzzzzzzzz...
BWAH HAH HAHAHAHAHA! Who needs a woman when you have a dooms-day weapon of unlimited power? I say let that pervert Makoto have these pitiful females. I know what's important.
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(http://www.el-hazardonline.net/El-Hazard/temp/rob/jinnaishayla.gif)
We need some more humans on Bugrom side. :P (Didn't someone suggest that once? Human spies for the Bugrom hiding along the river's edge or something? Was that the RPG book?) That probably makes for some very interesting story material, but I digress.
Funny you should mention that. This idea plays a significant role in our work, "Rough Justice."
http://www.mts.net/~kenwolfe/my_fanfic/Rough.txt
Shameless plug I know, but I believe the membership here will find the story satisfying. And, insofar as the above passage is concerned, our story is pertinent to the topic at hand.
Ken's solo work in the El Hazard universe is also highly worthwhile material. And readers of good fiction will find his Moonie-verse stuff appealing, I think.
http://www.mts.net/~kenwolfe/fanfic.html
--me
Mark Engels
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I would now invite you all to direct your eyes leftward.
Or over here. *feebly raises hand* =,]
No, really. I strongly urge you to check out the little ranking thingie I did over in the "Who Gets Makoto?" thread. Granted, that's looking at it from the other direction, but it's a pretty good breakdown of the various factors, I'd reckon. ^^;
Dammit, Iffy/Jinnai is so terribly adorable to me. I like Diva/Jinnai to a certain extent, yet at the same time I agree with the rest of you that their relationship would be, above all, very-- ahem-- utilitarian in nature. But I still like it. I'm a sick little gnome.
I can see Jinnai/Shayla, but it just doesn't appeal to me for whatever reason. While implausible (though isn't any Jinnai pairing, really?), I think I'd somehow like to see him with Afura. All loyalties aside and provided she could tolerate him, they'd look really nice together, physically and personality-wise.
But I wholeheartedly agree with you, LGJ! Forget the wenches! Girls be free! We know what's important. >D
I strongly doubt Jinnai would abandon his empire for a woman anybody... if he did, it'd be for his own personal, selfish reasons. ^_^ And of course, I wouldn't have it any other way. I admire his conviction! For I have long since abandoned the pursuit of a good, moral life in favor of my Supreme Sexgo--Ruler. -_- ... Er, the depravity is all my own, though. :D
*sigh* I could have been such a SAINTLY person... :-/
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Even though I don't know that much about El Hazard, I still think the Jinnai/Ifurita one tops all. What? Evil meets pathetic. What more could you want? *shot*
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JInnai Gets QUEEN DIVA!!
hehehe...She is the only one who is with Jinnai for a very long time! We don’t know what happened between them after the bugroom victory celebration in the 1st OAV..
Diva gave Jinnai a drink then… hehehe....
eheeem... anyways, they are both stupid evil villains --> they will rule the empire of the eeky bugroms and conquer Roshtaria with its allies and kill Makoto!
Diva + Jinnai!
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Or maybe....
[size=12]Jinnai Gets Makoto!![/size]
Oh my God! Yaoi Hentai!
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Have you talked to Xel lately? :p
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You broke my GAH!-o-meter ^^;
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Then there's... uh...
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Grrrrrrrr... WELL?! What the hell are you guys waiting for? DISCUSS, DAMN IT!
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Given the paucity of women in El-Hazard worthy of our Lord God Master Conqueror's consideration... and given my two favorite animes... allow me to suggest a cross-over romance.
How's your ping-pong game, Jinnai? (http://g2g.iverse.com/AMG/Gallery/Mara/mara-v10c060.jpg)
Just think-- Jinnai and Mara could help each other with their cunning plans of pure evil genius. And after the plans inevitably fail, they could, um, help each other, uh, lick their wounds, and stuff.
And I thought to myself, "I might want to check out the subtitles just to make sure no one tries to be a smart-ass referencing the original audio."
Well... it sounds like he says "yoku yatta no" in the Japanese track. "You did well" is a pretty close translation of that. Literally, something like "a thing that was done well."
I say "JUMP" and she says, "How high?"
Ifurita: How high!
I say "RUN!" and she says, "How far?"
Ifurita: How far!
I say, "KILL!" and she says, "How many?"
Ifurita: zzzzzzzzz...
No wonder poor li'l TV-Ifurita falls asleep so often. She must be exhausted from all that pointless jumping and running.
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Inevitably, it all comes down to a rivalry between TV Iffy and Diva. Diva harbors a desire to produce more offspring for the Bugrom race. A purpose to which Jinnai is both suited (apparently, as far as Diva is concerned) and obligated as an important miliary figure in the Bugrom conquest of El Hazard.
But TV Iffy is the only person who will follow Jinnai to hell and back. She's obviously the only person who could ever actually love Jinnai the way he is. Although, how far will it go? Ifurita has the emotional maturity of a 9 year old girl, and Jinnai is too busy playing war to be interested in girls. But what happens on the day when they both "discover" each other? ^^;
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You're assuming it's even possible, Saucer. :P
All hentai events aside, I kind of like leaving them as father/daughter. It's such an interesting dynamic. Of course, if you're into incest, you get the best of both worlds, don'cha? No, I didn't say anything.
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You're assuming it's even possible, Saucer. :P
All hentai events aside, I kind of like leaving them as father/daughter. It's such an interesting dynamic. Of course, if you're into incest, you get the best of both worlds, don'cha? No, I didn't say anything.
Sounds like pretty much the ultimate Jinnai H-Doujin. Three parts, starting off with a little father-daughter bonding with Jinnai and TV Iffy, followed by some sibling lovin' with Jinnai and Nanami, and topped off with a bit of Jinnai/Makoto action for the laydies.
How come Jinnai gets all the WEIRD pairings in Doujin? -_- Even if you just stick with good ol' Jinnai/Diva, it doesn't change the fact that she's still a giant bug. (Albeit a damn fine lookin' giant bug...)
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No offense, but I think you're letting logic and realism get in the way of considering several other possible Jinnai match-ups. ;D Now, lacking any seriousness whatsoever, let me reveal some other possiblities.
For example, there's the black-haired lady with the red eyes who may or may not be Myuun from a radio drama hovering over TV Ifurita present in this picture here.
http://www.el-hazardonline.net/cgi-bin/register/eholmemberfile.cgi?getfile=anthology/page002.jpg;type=jpeg
Doesn't she just scream "evil love slave" to you? Plus she's standing with the two Ifuritas, both of whom either are or used to be under Jinnai's control which might just imply something.
Then there's Kalia. Sure, she's a homicidal maniac stuck in the body of a pre-teen and dead now anyway, but she and Jinnai had _such_ great chemistry together. She even had a cute petname for him (LGJ)! Jinnai also probably still has her staff lying around somewhere, and if one stretches plausibility to just about the breaking point it's possible that Kalia's key staff doubles as a nanite self-repair unit that will, if placed back in Kalia's tomb, rebuild her and give her and Jinnai a chance to make up their differences!
Don't rule out the possibility of Jinnai and Ifurita2 either. Picture this: Jinnai repeatedly returns to the Hidden Home of the Trigger of Destruction to scavenge for spare parts, Ifurita2 continues to stop him, but Jinnai slowly but surely sweet-talks his way into her heart and wins her over.
Then there are the priestesses. Sure, Miz is already taken, Afura doesn't seem interested in romance at all, and Shayla and Jinnai are only likely to hook up if they faced imminent death and were seriously drunk (Yes, I've read Fault.), but that still leaves Qawool! Think about it! Jinnai could help her get over her bug phobia, and in return she'd be so grateful that she falls in love with him and joins the Bugrom Empire!
Even if that doesn't work, there is one more priestess to consider - Ishiel Soel. True, she only appears in the game, and the only evidence I've found in the OAV series that just maybe implies that there is or once was a fourth priestess would be the fact that there are four symbols and room for one more priestess in the Eye of God unsealing ritual, but let's not let canon get in the way of a potentially great relationship. Betrayed by Galus and distrusted by the Human Alliance, who else does she have to turn to but Jinnai and the Bugrom Empire?
Finally, since Jinnai seems to get along with Diva so well, why not OAV Rune? Diva and Rune are both powerful monarchs whose positions appear to isolate them, and with Jinnai's tactical genius would it really be impossible for him to win Rune Venus over?
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Myuun?
...I don't think so. She rejected his body because it "wouldn't serve her the purpose".
(Fun fact: Myuun's VA is the same as Ishiel's)
Actually, it would be hilarious if Jinnai can get OAV Rune, though I think he would be annoyed about her constant depression.
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Myuun?
...I don't think so. She rejected his body because it "wouldn't serve her the purpose".
(Fun fact: Myuun's VA is the same as Ishiel's)
Actually, it would be hilarious if Jinnai can get OAV Rune, though I think he would be annoyed about her constant depression.
Nanami: *Claps hands together* How cute! A marriage between the Bugrom and the royal house!
Jinnai: Dammit, Rune, do you think you could pull yourself away from that balcony long enough to get married?
OAV Rune: *Staring into the sky* Entropy... How it plagues our world... Is there nothing we can do to stop it from destroying us all?
Makoto: Um, sorry Princess, but I don't think there is...
Londs: Your highness, I advise you to make haste! Fujisawa-sensei has already broken past the first three battalions guarding the open bar, and I don't know how much longer we can hold out!
OAV Rune: *Deep sigh*
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Now now, don't be silly. They'd have the wedding _on_ the balcony, obviously. ;D Heck, Jinnai could probably have a Bugrom workcrew carry the balcony around for the honeymoon even, and if that's not true love than what is?
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Well, I supose you could say Ifurita and Makoto...
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I rather go for Ifurita and Makoto than anyone else...
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DIVA!
Shayla/ Jinnai... hehehe that could be funny, for a while.
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For my inaugural post here...I'd like to also vote for Diva.
It's the hair, I think. And hey, imagine their kids...bugrom, human, or some combination thereof. Hell, they may even be able to fly. ;)
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^^ Just re-iterating my point. I promise I'll make it short!
I'm still liking the idea of Iffy/Jinnai, only because the MOST affectionate I've ever seen Jinnai is around her. I like the father/daughter dynamic too, but taking it to the next level might be fun... But I guess it all depends on what kind of couples you like.
Then there are the priestesses. Sure, Miz is already taken, Afura doesn't seem interested in romance at all, and Shayla and Jinnai are only likely to hook up if they faced imminent death and were seriously drunk (Yes, I've read Fault.), but that still leaves Qawool! Think about it! Jinnai could help her get over her bug phobia, and in return she'd be so grateful that she falls in love with him and joins the Bugrom Empire!
I'm not trying to put you down in any way by saying this, but I think that's the worst pairing so far! Quawool says she likes "nice, kind" men, and has a phobia of bugs. It seems as though she is Jinnai's direct opposite. Then again, she may be naieve enough to believe Jinnai's views on "good and evil". But personally, I kind of dislike Quawool's character, and if one more man (or woman) gets an obsessive crush on her, I'll puke...
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Well... it sounds like he says "yoku yatta no" in the Japanese track. "You did well" is a pretty close translation of that. Literally, something like "a thing that was done well."
Just to clarify, I was just being a smart-ass about that "you did a good job" comment. El-Hazard actually does a pretty decent dub, sticking more-or-less to the original, cultural references excluded. In fact, I actually prefer the dub, the reason being Bob Marx. But I'm getting off topic.
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I always thought Jinnai should be paired with Ifurita. Well, lets see, the whole Master/slave relationship is really kinky and I always thought of how awesome it would look to have Ifurita all on her hands and knees before Jinnai looking the part of the eager slave. Yeah, I'm into the whole bdsm thing and I am currently looking for someone to rp this out with to knock my socks off. *blushes* um, anyways, yeah, carry on. ^^
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:o
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So Jinnai gets to choose between the bug lady, a killer android, and... another killer android.
No wonder the kid is so messed up. :/
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I always thought Jinnai should be paired with Ifurita. Well, lets see, the whole Master/slave relationship is really kinky and I always thought of how awesome it would look to have Ifurita all on her hands and knees before Jinnai looking the part of the eager slave. Yeah, I'm into the whole bdsm thing and I am currently looking for someone to rp this out with to knock my socks off. *blushes* um, anyways, yeah, carry on. ^^
Sounds like somebody needs to make a stop-over at EHOL's doujinshi section! ^^;
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yeah I thinks so too. ^^
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Damn it, Saucer! Don't encourage her! The last thing I need now is a Demon God slave who's into all this icky, kinky crap. How the hell am I supposed to enjoy punishing her if she enjoys the punishment?! XO
You are not allowed to go into the Hentai section, Ifurita. I forbid it! Go read something wholesome, like Sun Tzu's The Art of War, or one of those Hannibal Lecter books.
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I already have a few books, Master. See! *holds up a copy of Stephen King's Dark Tower II The Drawing of the Three* I only have gotten through the first chapter but its pretty good. ^^
there was this one part where the gunslinger was getting his body hacked into by these crab monster things on the beach! it was really adventurous!
but I promise I won't go into the hentai section, Master. I already have alot of that on my computer anyways. ^^
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And then you have me who likes to go the crossover pairing route. Anyone here familar with Naga from Slayers? Personally I consider her and Jinnai a perfect pair, although combining both those laughes would probably wipe out a couple small nations. But with possible pairings? Probably Ifurina (That's just a name I started calling the wanders version in a fic where both showed up to avoid confusion and I just tend to call her that since) assuming she doesn't end up accidentally killing him.
"Course I though living in a dumpster was great so my opion's suspect"
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Probably Ifurina (That's just a name I started calling the wanders version in a fic where both showed up to avoid confusion and I just tend to call her that since)
It's also the name used in the radio drama for their adaption of the TV Ifurita character:
http://www.el-hazardonline.net/cgi-bin/eholpage.cgi?series=NA;menu=9;content=radiodrama/radiodramafrontpage.htm
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Ya know I had no idea about that. Oh well, shouldn't be surprised when was the last time I had an orginal idea.
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when was the last time I had an orginal idea.
... I dunno. In only four posts it's hard to tell. ;D
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The last thing I need now is a Demon God slave who's into all this icky, kinky crap. How the hell am I supposed to enjoy punishing her if she enjoys the punishment?! XO
::takes off glasses and massages temples:: *SIGH* You're absolutely right, what was I thinking?
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Who gets Jinnai? I'm not sure, to me some signs point to Diva. Kalia, no, she tried to destroy everyone, everything including herself(So sad) and not Ifruita(TV or OVA), I'm not sure, he's the villain, I never thought of a romance to that guy, he's too megalomaniacal. Oh well! What can ya do!
I'm just a gigolo, everywhere I go
people know the part I'm playing
paid for every dance
starting each romance
oh what their saying
And there will come a day
And youth will pass away
What will they say about me
When the end comes I know
They'll say just a gigalo
Life goes on without meI ain't got nobody, nobody,
nobody cares for me
Nobody , theres nobody cares for me
I'm so sad and lonely,
oh lonely, oh lonely, lonely lonely
Won't some sweet mama come and rescue me
cause I aint so bad
-Louis Prima
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oh kami ::)
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oh kami ::)