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General => Non-El-Hazard Topical Discussions => Topic started by: washuchan on September 04, 2003, 08:10:50 pm

Title: jobs
Post by: washuchan on September 04, 2003, 08:10:50 pm
ok, we got all kinds of "revealing" topic, so I hope we can do another one.

So...

how'd you earn your living? how'd u earn your pay?

(u marines/rangers should be familiar with the "questions")

Me:
engineer, currently working mostly on field engineering.
Future plan?
maybe I'll join OCS one day...

Title: Re: jobs
Post by: theravenisdead on September 04, 2003, 08:16:19 pm
I'm a professional slacker ::) ^^;-_- Heh..


But seriously, nah I'm unemployed.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: MrWhat on September 04, 2003, 10:10:40 pm
I work for them (http://www.ciber.com/index_var.cfm?pageid=/ciber_overview/offices/offices_search_results.cfm?city=Springfield).

But I actually work here (http://www.dot.state.il.us/aero/index.html).

I do this (http://echoalpha.com/etc/scrncaps.html).  (These screencaps are incomplete and obsolete, but you get the idea.)
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on September 04, 2003, 10:50:34 pm
Currently I put forth all my inborn talent and great mind to hauling garbage, washing dishes, and running a cash register at a downtown Pittsburgh Sbarro's for the awesome salary of $6.50/hr.







-_-
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Spanner on September 04, 2003, 10:58:49 pm
I work as a software engineer for a military contractor known as United Defense.

I build WEAPONS OF DEATH!!!

Actually, I just build TRAINING SIMULATORS FOR WEAPONS OF DEATH!!!

But that just doesn't have the same ring to it...
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on September 04, 2003, 11:34:42 pm
Hmm... my holy logs state that you're using Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 95).  While glowing effects and the like are Microsoft specific (you probably won't ever see them in any other browser) it's possible that for some reason they aren't rendering on IE 5.5 either because of Windows 95 or a screen resolution.  Unless all of that information is completely defunt due to your software only reporting it is as such.  ;)
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Spanner on September 04, 2003, 11:51:28 pm
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Hmm... my holy logs state that you're using Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 95).  While glowing effects and the like are Microsoft specific (you probably won't ever see them in any other browser) it's possible that for some reason they aren't rendering on IE 5.5 either because of Windows 95 or a screen resolution.  Unless all of that information is completely defunt due to your software only reporting it is as such.  ;)

Ah, that would explain it, then. I am using IE v5.5, but because my main computer is currently down, I'm using my old Windows 95 machine. Din't realize that some of the font options were dependent on the operating system.

I'm gonna go remove the testing message from my post, now, 'cause it kinda spoils the effect of the main message. ;D
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Fujisawa4654 on September 04, 2003, 11:52:30 pm
I'm 14 and I've got a workers permit, and I work at the pool, gatekeeper, working minimum wage for $6.75 an hour
Dont' hurt me rob, please!

*ahem*

My job is incredibly boring, I jsut sit aroudn at the gate, drink sodas, water, and uhh, I remember someone pranking me by putting pool water mixed with uhh... urine...

I didn't drink it because I could sense it's foul odor, plus some of the other people say I stole the job from his friend, the truth is, I dont' give a damn, first come first serve...

Anyway, that's my job :)
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: theravenisdead on September 05, 2003, 12:00:36 am
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Ah, that would explain it, then. I am using IE v5.5, but because my main computer is currently down, I'm using my old Windows 95 machine. Din't realize that some of the font options were dependent on the operating system.


I have a p100 laptop too, and it runs Win98 just fine. I use my laptop fer browsing, writing, occasional game, and as a linux box as well. There is no performance difference between 95 and 98 on my machine (and since 98 has more features and support then 95 it was a no brainer)

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Hmm... my holy logs state that you're using Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 95).  While glowing effects and the like are Microsoft specific (you probably won't ever see them in any other browser) it's possible that for some reason they aren't rendering on IE 5.5 either because of Windows 95 or a screen resolution.  Unless all of that information is completely defunt due to your software only reporting it is as such.  


I use Opera, Mozilla and Konqueror alot, and it supports it all. Most browsers, if not all major ones, support all these features just fine.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on September 05, 2003, 07:52:21 am
Ah.  Then perhaps the tides are changing.  Glowing text, marquees, and some other funky graphical effects were often labeled by people to be "the scourge of MSHTML" (that is, tags that Microsoft made up and no one else supports).  I always figured no one would ever bother to actually code them in to their respective browsers.  :P
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: washuchan on September 05, 2003, 12:42:38 pm
with this

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I just build TRAINING SIMULATORS FOR WEAPONS OF DEATH!!!


and this

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and periodically throughout the day when I'm supposed to be working   (between 7:30 am and 4:30 pm - yeah, shame on me ).

I shouldn't try to rationalize it, but I'd probably go nuts if I didn't have something to distract myself with from time to time while working... But it's still a bad habit. I'm doing it right now.


and the dual I's website,
I wouldn't be surprised if one day I encounter a training simulator that's either called Ifurita or has Ifurita logo, or has a VR guide by the name/looks of Ifurita

hmm, that's not a bad thing at all....I'm actually looking forward to it I guess

Don't worry Rob,we all started somewhere
I started from washing dishes at an army cadet chow hall with a min wage of $5.50!!!...'n if you ever work in one, you know how annoying it is when people takes more than they can eat in a buffet style meal.
yep, that and all the trash hauling, floor scrubbing....somehow I was omitted from toilet service though....
Rob, have you ever though of joining the armed forces?
They could send you to public tech schools via loans etc & in the service at all there're all sort of expertise to benefit from, I believe some of them are deeply computer related. Also, if you join the reserve ,it's very unlikely u'll be dropped in a war zone.


Fujisawa4654,
hmm, boring job eh? I've been around quite a bit (10 jobs so far)....your job reminds me of being a gym attendant, yep, just sitting around and be an assistance to the patrons. We couldn't even work out.
and um, pool, um, u sure you have nothing "unique" to say about the job? Something that mostly likely exists in gyms as well

ps. and oh, Spanner, would u mind telling me in the caption thread the program u use to caption all the pics in dual Ifurita website
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: larewen_evenstar on September 05, 2003, 04:18:55 pm
Woah. Everyone here seems to have such cool jobs. I go to school five days a week, don't get paid for it. But then I occasionally do the washing at home. :P I get paid £5 a week, not including what I get from my gran. :P
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Tim needs time to work it out on September 05, 2003, 04:43:12 pm
I have no job...!

Basically, I'm a college student.

In detail, I have a NOCTI certification to do Medical Assisting (those people you see before the doctor), but I decided to try out MLT (Medical Lab Technition{<-sp?}) first, which requires two years of  training.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on September 05, 2003, 07:21:39 pm
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Rob, have you ever though of joining the armed forces?
They could send you to public tech schools via loans etc & in the service at all there're all sort of expertise to benefit from, I believe some of them are deeply computer related. Also, if you join the reserve ,it's very unlikely u'll be dropped in a war zone.


The only time I've actually thought of it was at the height of my desperation for work earlier this summer.  Personally none of the president's current things are things I'm truly feeling its worth dying for so I'd prefer to remain uninvolved.  (It's more I can't understand most of his goals and his basis for action more than just disagreeing it.)  Anyway, not to get into a political arguement or anything, we'll just leave it that I'm not all that interested.  Though I will admit most technologies are developed through the military and that's certainly interesting.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Fujisawa4654 on September 05, 2003, 07:26:31 pm
Bleh, people with either suprising jobs or none at all.. Let me recount who do and don't have jobs.. I'll just go by numbers hmm.. lets see...

That.. That... Not that... That.. Th... CRAP forgot where I was.. Oh well I'll just count again

That.. THat... THAT.... Oh to hell with it!

I say 6/8!... I might be wrong...

Maybe it's 5/7....

Maybe even smaller... Like 41/4 or something...
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Fujisawa4654 on September 05, 2003, 07:29:52 pm
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The only time I've actually thought of it was at the height of my desperation for work earlier this summer.  Personally none of the president's current things are things I'm truly feeling its worth dying for so I'd prefer to remain uninvolved.  (It's more I can't understand most of his goals and his basis for action more than just disagreeing it.)  Anyway, not to get into a political arguement or anything, we'll just leave it that I'm not all that interested.  Though I will admit most technologies are developed through the military and that's certainly interesting.



Once I become 18, I might join the military, but I don't want to be a grunt on the front lines... Noone wants to...
WHy am I even talking about this, everytime I think about the military I think about President bush, my o... Ehh going off topic

I just liek to brag at times :P
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Saucer on September 05, 2003, 08:08:57 pm
And now, without further ado.........

Saucer's esteemed place of employ -_________-; (http://www.belmontlibrary.org/)

As with almost every Saturday morning, I have the joy of beginning my workday tommorow at 8:30AM.  -_-
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: mark_engels on September 06, 2003, 11:02:56 am
I currently work as a signal technician for the Grand Trunk District of the Canadian National Railway system (Munster, Indiana to Battle Creek, Michigan by way of South Bend.  Great Lakes Region, central United States.)

Before that, I was employed as a signalman for both CN and another big railroad called CSX.  I managed to get my picture in the paper once showing yours truly hard at it.

http://www.suncommercial.com/articles/2003/04/08/news/top_story/topstory.txt

Before that, I worked as an electronics technician, software engineer and project manager in a variety of industries, including aerospace and medical devices.  

My current responsibilities include repairing circuit boards and components used in railway traffic control systems ("traffic lights" for lack of a better term) and highway crossing warning systems.  Anything I can't fix (or shouldn't due to liability concerns) I'm tasked with packaging up and returning to the vendors.  And when there's a signal maintainer in trouble, I need to jump in my van and go help them.  Haven't had any 3AM trouble calls yet, but I know they're imminent.  

My previous employer had a list of job tasks posted on its web site for job-seekers to review.  The signal craft position description is here:

http://www.csxt.com/employee/index.cfm?fuseaction=jobs.desc&i=5118

I've done a few of these things myself.  Anyone interested in learning more about careers in North American railroading is more than welcome to contact me off-list.  I was a train buff (or railfan as they're known) long before I became interested in anime.  So my job is like a dream come true.  :)  I am actually required to stop work and watch the trains passing me to conduct a "roll by" inspection.  Such agony!  ;)
Railroad Retirement is a pretty sweet deal too.

A less "textbook" definition of what the job is like follows.  "Bonding" was always fun because of the sparks and molten metal.  :)  But it was hell trying to do it on a rainy day--get the rail or the bond mold a little wet and the slag as likely as not would blow up in your face.  Anyone who's ever had hot slag run down their glove, shirt or boot will know the exquisite pain of which I speak...

--me

Mark Engels

> Message: 14
>    Date: Wed, 22 Jan 2003 21:55:54 -0500
>    From: "D.Gabe Gabriel" <signaling@railway.org>
> Subject: Whats a Signal Guy Do?
>
> I actually wrote this two years ago when asked elsewhere
> - posted now to
> give some insight to the lives of some typical signal
> guys...
> Gabe (a signal guy)
>
> So what does it take to be a signal guy?  
>
> Although there are more signal guys working with shovels
> or meters than
> there are in offices, the field work is more complex to
> describe than
> the white collar jobs - so let's start with the office
> signal guy.
>
> This "office signal guy", may have come right out of
> college (usually,
> an electrical engineer) or have come from a field
> position, usually as a
> field signal guy with a high level of responsibility.  In
> the office, he
> will learn first about the railway's rules and standards
> - the symbols,
> standards for types of equipment, circuitry, and
> interfaces - typical
> layouts. Then learn drafting (yes, people still do hand
> drafting), and
> how to use the CAD system (most US railroads use
> MicroStation, while US
> transit agencies tend to favor AutoCAD).  Progressing
> through learning
> this and as the philosophy starts to make sense (after
> 2-3 years), now
> its time to learn to use the materials catalogs and labor
> rules to learn
> to do design and construction estimates.  Finally, the
> process of signal
> block design will get taught, using whichever software
> may be at his
> disposal.  Now that everything has fallen in to place,
> five to 10 years
> after getting started, he should have mastered the
> intricacies of
> circuit design for a wide variety of vital systems
> (interlockings,
> electric locks, automatic signals, grade crossings,
> movable bridges, the
> wide variety of equipment types and aspects that may be
> available) - if
> he's lucky (there are signal guys that never worked on
> other than a
> single type of system design even after 10-15 years).  If
> the agency
> contracts some of this work out, he is now almost
> qualified to write
> design criteria and specifications so signal work can be
> out-sourced -
> only new thing to learn first is how to address
> liability,  project
> controls, schedules, and how to integrate these to
> generate contracts to
> be able to effectively out-source the work - and of
> course, learning the
> standards for developing all of these. During this
> period, he
> established proficiency in PC skills, including the
> common programs such
> as Excel or Lotus, MS Word or WordPerfect, and the
> proprietary packages
> such as those produced by Harmon, US&S, Alstom, or
> Safetran to develop
> application software for their systems.  If he has now
> reached a
> position of authority, he gets to exchange information
> regularly by
> participation in AREMA or IRSE, or even the more
> exclusive groups where
> only the highest level signal guys get to hear of the
> equipment problems
> or human errors that have crept up on other railways -
> things that
> future signal design will work toward preventing.
>
> The field signal guy either began as a trainee only
> recently out of
> college, or, was hired to begin at the lowest positions
> possible in the
> Signal Department.  Most began work with a ballast fork
> and shovel in
> their hands. Then the learning begins...
> Learning to dig in cables, track wires, chiseling
> concrete to create a
> path for running new cables because the conduit has
> frozen the old
> cables in place...
> Learning to climb the 20 foot, then 45 foot, poles used
> to distribute
> power, or even line circuits - then to string and tie new
> line wire or
> cable along the poles.  
> Learning to build forms to pour a new foundation for a
> cantilever
> signal, and learning to mix the concrete and do the
> pour...
> Learning to operate the equipment - the backhoe to dig in
> the pre-cast
> foundation; the  articulated Ditch Witch to plow in a
> mile of cable in a
> single day; the "hog" to push the new cable conduit under
> a grade
> crossing; the chainsaw to clear polelines; the hi-rail
> vehicle, boom &
> auger truck... even getting the commercial drivers
> license (CDL) may be
> necessary, and semi-trailer licensing...
> Learning to properly install Cadweld bond wires, or the
> layout for
> switch bonding...
> Learning to cut and thread steel pipe for the airline,
> install PVC for
> the laterals...  
> Learning the dozens of necessary rope hitches, splices,
> and reeving...
> Learning to make wire eyes in #6 wire, and terminate even
> the smallest
> stuff - and how to count cable conductors and memorizing
> color codes for
> the code system wiring...  
>
> And the dirty work...
> Cleaning up a spill of hydraulic fluid for the yard
> retarders, then
> replacing the burst lines and getting the system working
> again.
> Climbing through the spider infested building crawlspace
> dragging a
> temporary cable that he is routing through.
> Struggling through the over-grown weeds and bushes along
> the
> right-of-way looking for the break in the cable on the
> poleline - using
> plenty of tick repellent first and hoping none that
> landed carried a
> disease.
>
> Two, three years go by, and he hasn't even learned what
> seems like
> signal stuff yet...
>
> Then the dreaded winter arrives, and learning to adjust
> alcohol drips
> and perform the most thankless (and cold) tasks at the
> interlockings,
> yards, and (the coldest place of all) drawbridges as the
> winter winds
> and snow wreak havoc with keeping the systems going.  
> With the chance to work with a construction gang,
> maintenance gang, or
> signal maintainer, learning finally becomes more
> interesting - getting
> to understand why there are many dozens of different
> relay types, the
> importance of grounds (made ground to protect equipment,
> and
> unintentional grounding that can be deadly), the first
> real chance to
> understand the circuit plans, road diagrams, and typicals
> as he gets to
> apply them to the "real world".  Then the introduction to
> troubleshooting... How to determine why the crossing XR
> is down, then
> how to locate the failed track circuit, then the problem
> of proving to a
> track foreman that he needs to replace a bad insulated
> joint.  The
> problems start to become more interesting...  a switch
> failure due to
> poor track maintenance... clearing the wrecked equipment
> at a grade
> crossing collision... shooting a ground... (maintainers
> "shoot trouble"
> to locate where the problem is).
>
> Finally, after a few years of what seems like abuse, the
> signal guy has
> learned enough to qualify as a gang signalman, or a
> signal maintainer,
> or more specialized position such as test maintainer.
> Relief at last.
> ...or so he had thought until beginning the Maintainer
> job!  Now, the
> importance of the many things told in the past of what
> NOT to do make
> more sense, and take on a whole new meaning - the day
> that he, as a
> maintainer, gets "one of the new guys" as a helper, he
> tolerates the
> annoying questions and mistakes, remembering his in years
> past - and
> helps the new guy along...
>
> While the gang jobs can be called easy going (a foreman
> that takes the
> heat), every maintainer is responsible for a section or
> task, with no
> one else to count on to make day-to-day decisions...
> always being
> scrutinized by the supervisor and others that seemingly
> have no
> understanding of what is going on... an almost thankless
> job, but,
> often, mentally rewarding.
>
> Finally, the day comes when he has an opportunity to be
> promoted to a
> specialized semi-white collar field position, such as
> Supervisor,
> Project Engineer, Test Inspector, or similar jobs that
> requiring
> applying everything learned, and shouldering the
> responsibility for
> maintenance planning, project planning, installation, or
> cut-over
> testing. Now, he must learn to draft a project plan or
> test plan,
> recalling every mistake made in the past, every mistake
> ever heard of,
> or can imagine, and applying these to the plan to ensure
> that they are
> prevented.  Budgets are at the top of his mind... arguing
> to get time,
> or money, or people, to get that "thing" fixed before it
> becomes more
> costly or creates new problems...  Labor issues start to
> surface for the
> first time...  the union probably looked more passive
> when he was a
> union member, rather than sitting at the other side of
> the table. And
> paperwork? Why does it seem sometimes that most of the
> day is spent
> doing paperwork or arguing on the phone... and not doing
> any "real
> work"?
>
> This field signal guy is now ready to make the change to
> become a Signal
> Engineer - and that takes us back where we started.  
>
>
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Fujisawa4654 on September 06, 2003, 02:16:52 pm
*reads every little bit of Mark's post*

Ehh, I think you're the most successful person here  ^^;
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: larewen_evenstar on September 06, 2003, 02:29:22 pm
I didn't read it. I haven't got enough time.  :'(
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Xel on September 06, 2003, 02:52:23 pm
Currently a full-time junior at a H4RDK0R3!!!111one college prep school. If what I've heard about this year is true, expect my untimely death in about... three months.

I worked this summer at a Bruegger's. So, Rob... *weep* ... Get out of food service. Get out. It sucks damp asses. WHY ARE YOU STILL IN FOOD SERVICE?!

The smell... it STAYS ON YOU WHEN YOU LEAVE. It smells like a nauseating combination of bleach and rotting cream cheese! GET OUT NOW, WHILE YOU STILL CAN.

[/rant]

... Shit. If I'm gonna be a corporate whore, I wanna be a corporate whore at the top. XD

I have terrible fantasies of working at a place like Shinra HQ.  ^^;
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: El The Istari on September 06, 2003, 03:20:07 pm
I'm a full time highschool student who just loves learning about supplementry angles and the amount of chords used in "Little Bitty Pretty One". X-D
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: larewen_evenstar on September 06, 2003, 03:22:47 pm
Oooo!!! Fun! I haven't done that yet. I'm dreading that...tune....getting stuck in my head!  :|
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: El The Istari on September 06, 2003, 03:34:02 pm
It's not really interesting, but we did the hand jive to it, and during "Earth Angle", we (meaning John, Vicki and I) joined hands and swayed.

Yes, members of EHO, I have no life.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: larewen_evenstar on September 06, 2003, 03:38:47 pm
Erm...El? We already knew that.  ^^;
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Saucer on September 06, 2003, 09:50:01 pm
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Currently a full-time junior at a H4RDK0R3!!!111one college prep school. If what I've heard about this year is true, expect my untimely death in about... three months.

Xel's an Exam School Student! Ronin! RONIN!!! ;D J/K
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on September 07, 2003, 01:35:07 am
I am currently day jobing in the retail industry, which is almost as bad as food service, 'cept you don't get free food.

I am also a full time college student studying video game production, as well as other esoteric (i.e. waste of money) courses.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Xel on September 07, 2003, 06:21:43 pm
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Xel's an Exam School Student! Ronin! RONIN!!! ;D J/K


^^; Okay, that's definitely how I'm describing myself from now on.

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I am currently day jobing in the retail industry, which is almost as bad as food service, 'cept you don't get free food.


Your night job being CONQUERING THE WORLD, yes?

I snuck myself a nice, tasty bagel once (manager disapproved of food-pilfering... pfft). But as I ate it, I bit the inside of my cheek with crushing force and it later became semi-infected for the following week. I think it was karma.

What I'd really like to do, being situated in good ol' Minnesota, is go get me a job at Game Informer.  ;D Granted, the commute from Minneapolis to Eden Prairie every day would be annoying (I know SOME of you know what I'm talking about :P), but hey! Video games, man!

And speaking of video games, I do believe that Chaos Legion has given me a mild case of carpal tunnel syndrome. Damn you, Capcom action games! Daaaaamn yooooou!


THIS MESSAGE IS NOT OFF-TOPIC.

Title: Re: jobs
Post by: executor82 on September 07, 2003, 06:41:55 pm
I've got a part time job in a small computer store as an engineer and I try to get the grip of my studies  :P

I get payed about ...*calculates* 5.50$ hour. Wow! While I work only twice a week I barely earn my 200 bugs a month  :-/

I'd like to get something more lucrative  :P

But sometimes (really rarely at the moment) I get some job as a graphic designer and earn my 100 bugs per job or more.  |D If this would just happen more often, all my problems would be solved  ;D
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: washuchan on September 07, 2003, 09:13:58 pm
xel,
I think Saucer is making lovehina-based jokes
U'll sure get it if u follow the series

oh jobs...jobs
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Xel on September 07, 2003, 09:30:54 pm
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xel,
I think Saucer is making lovehina-based jokes
U'll sure get it if u follow the series

oh jobs...jobs


Brief OT-ness: And here I drew the parallel with Maison Ikkoku. I am 0LD SK00L. 8)
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on September 07, 2003, 11:39:52 pm
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Your night job being CONQUERING THE WORLD, yes?



Bah! Planetary conquest is my FULL TIME job.

*sighs*

But unfortunately, such a grandios ambition does not pay too well. Therego, in order to pay the rent on the Hive, my loyal minions and I have to take these stupid part time jobs. Oh the humanity...

PART TIME JOBS PART TIME JOBS PART TIME JOBS PART TIME JOBS



Groucho ~ Telemarketer

Guy: Hello?

Groucho: !$#!%!@#$#@!%

Guy: What?

Groucho: !$#!%!@#$#@!%

Guy: Who the hell is this?

Groucho: #$@@!%%#...

Guy: Ghaaaa! It's you, isn't it Kumi Kumi! Will you never stop haunting me?? NOOOOO!!!


Ifurita ~ Exotic Dancer

Ifurita: Umm... you want me to dance around this pole?

Sleeze merchant: Yep. That's right, toots.

Ifurita: Umm... okay. *smiles sweetly*

**TWO MINUTES LATER...**

Sleeze Merchant: Nooo! What did you do to my club? There's nothin left but fire and brimstone!

Ifurita: Sorry, boss! But I kinda confused what I had to do on stage with what I usually do in my other job. Heh... do you think those guys will still tip me even though I blew them up?

Sleeze Merchant: *cries like a baby*  :bawl


Xel ~ Toilet Cleaner

Gas Station Attendant: Okay, kid, here it is... the men's room. Now I warned that boss of yours that we usually have commercial-grade robots do this sort of thing, cuz it's like highly toxic and dangerous in there, but well, that guy made us a great deal on you! We saved a bunch load of money hiring you instead of those robots. So, uh... have fun in there. And be careful. We had a bunch of truckers come in half an hour ago, and well... it ain't pretty in there. Good luck! *nervously unlocks the men's room door, then runs off*

Xel: .........

*door slowly opens.... revealing HORRORS BEYOND WHICH WORDS CAN TELL*
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: larewen_evenstar on September 08, 2003, 11:23:20 am
*stares blankly*  ^^;
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: theravenisdead on September 08, 2003, 01:38:09 pm
De horror.... de horror... -_-
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: mark_engels on September 08, 2003, 05:38:48 pm
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Brief OT-ness: And here I drew the parallel with Maison Ikkoku. I am 0LD SK00L. 8)


Probably the best manga Takahashi ever did.  I've got them all and love the series.  And that was the first thing that came to mind when I read Saucer's references to a "ronin", although Usagi Yojimbo was a close second.

--me

Mark Engels
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Xel on September 08, 2003, 10:13:27 pm
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Xel ~ Toilet Cleaner

Gas Station Attendant: Okay, kid, here it is... the men's room. Now I warned that boss of yours that we usually have commercial-grade robots do this sort of thing, cuz it's like highly toxic and dangerous in there, but well, that guy made us a great deal on you! We saved a bunch load of money hiring you instead of those robots. So, uh... have fun in there. And be careful. We had a bunch of truckers come in half an hour ago, and well... it ain't pretty in there. Good luck! *nervously unlocks the men's room door, then runs off*

Xel: .........

*door slowly opens.... revealing HORRORS BEYOND WHICH WORDS CAN TELL*


*sobs*

... How'd that get on film? >_>

......... There are people out there who'd pay good money to see that. -_-

Though I'm considering a far more lucrative job than toilet cleaning, honestly. Not that I disapprove of your choice for me, sir! ...

It's just... well, we must all follow our passions! I'm thinking of joining a doujinshi circle. |D
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Saucer on September 09, 2003, 10:53:36 pm
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xel,
I think Saucer is making lovehina-based jokes
U'll sure get it if u follow the series

oh jobs...jobs



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Brief OT-ness: And here I drew the parallel with Maison Ikkoku. I am 0LD SK00L. 8)

::high fives Xel:: 0LD 5CH00L R0XX0R!! ^^; You guys are so silly. Wasn't making any references to any particular series. But hey, Maison Ikkoku is great. However, Kimagure Orange Road 0WnZ 4LL!!!
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Kathy Guinea on October 03, 2003, 07:54:36 am
I graduated last December from Edinboro University with a certification and BS in Art Education.

Finding no job in Pennsylvania I took a job on a US military base in Guam teaching middle school art O_O;

I now make $31,990 a year plus a cost of living allowance for moving from PA to Guam.

Just so you know, $32,000 is about the MAX you can get as a first year teacher... and the Cost of Living Allowance pushes my salary closer to $40,000 a year (because Guam is expensive as hell).

They have a killer pension and health plan. They also ship all your crap here for you... (they shipped my car too).

AND they are sending me to Tokyo to attend an art teacher conference in 2 weeks... and the trip will be on THEIR bill!

WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT R0xX0r5!!!!!!

Umm cept for the whole leaving my family and friends and moving half way around the world thing...

Here's to hoping I get a position in Japan after my 2 year contract is up!

Now... if only I didn't have to work 60 hours a week planning lessons... >_<
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Spanner on October 03, 2003, 08:21:01 am
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I graduated last December from Edinboro University with a certification and BS in Art Education.

Finding no job in Pennsylvania I took a job on a US military base in Guam teaching middle school art O_O;

I now make $31,990 a year plus a cost of living allowance for moving from PA to Guam.

Just so you know, $32,000 is about the MAX you can get as a first year teacher... and the Cost of Living Allowance pushes my salary closer to $40,000 a year (because Guam is expensive as hell).

They have a killer pension and health plan. They also ship all your crap here for you... (they shipped my car too).

AND they are sending me to Tokyo to attend an art teacher conference in 2 weeks... and the trip will be on THEIR bill!

WORKING FOR THE GOVERNMENT R0xX0r5!!!!!!

Umm cept for the whole leaving my family and friends and moving half way around the world thing...

Here's to hoping I get a position in Japan after my 2 year contract is up!

Now... if only I didn't have to work 60 hours a week planning lessons... >_<

Teacher?

Government employee!

INCOME!!!

XD
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on October 03, 2003, 08:48:40 am
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Teacher?

Government employee!

INCOME!!!

XD


It's simply not complete without the in-your-face face.

(http://www.el-hazardonline.net/El-Hazard/temp/rob/incomplete.JPG)














... hmm, but Sarah's a girl.  Alrighty then.

(http://www.el-hazardonline.net/El-Hazard/temp/rob/incomplete2.JPG)
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Kathy Guinea on October 03, 2003, 05:19:43 pm
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It's simply not complete without the in-your-face face.

(http://www.el-hazardonline.net/El-Hazard/temp/rob/incomplete.JPG)


LOL ^_^ Is true I am all of the above! Cept, that face of Miz is how MY face looks right now...  ^_^V

The Fujisawa face is more appropriate I guess ^_^

But then again, EVERYONE here is a government employee... and you certainly don't see any of the guys pulling a Miz (or Fujisawa) on me 9_9

In fact, they pretty much leave me alone... just like back home... but that couldn't be due to the fact that I work 60 hours a week and don't go anywhere... now could it?

O_O though there is this really old guy who I bump into by chance more often than I'd like and I think he digs me... why do I always get hit on by 50-year-old men?  :bawl

why doesn't anyone my age like me? I'm cool! I like anime and video games!

Title: Re: jobs
Post by: mark_engels on October 03, 2003, 05:25:46 pm
Rob and Eric...

ROTFLMAO.  Thanks fellas.  That made my month.

Glad to see you back with us, Kat.

And here I thought I had cut the fat hog in the ass having a company van to drive around to my trouble calls on the railroad signal system.  Of course, they also expect me to drive da buggy into the swamps at night to find out why the dispatchers are seeing track lights lit on their panels...

Rob's been in touch with a railroad friend of mine who happens to be Pittsburgh's newest anime buff.  Maybe the Showalter family could enlighten Homer and I whether there any regular anime showings or cons out your way?

--me

Mark Engels
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on October 03, 2003, 09:34:25 pm
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Maybe the Showalter family could enlighten Homer and I whether there any regular anime showings or cons out your way?


There was only one ever not too long ago.  And it sucked.  :P  But it DID have a pretty high attendance, so maybe it'll get some thoughts that there ought to be more.  Possibly since it was a first time trial might help indicate why it wasn't stellar.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Kathy Guinea on October 04, 2003, 04:45:10 pm
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There was only one ever not too long ago.  And it sucked.  :P  But it DID have a pretty high attendance, so maybe it'll get some thoughts that there ought to be more.  Possibly since it was a first time trial might help indicate why it wasn't stellar.


Umm Tekkoshocon had it's FIRST year in Pittsburgh. And yeah it wasn't GREAT but, really Bob, that wasn't the WORST either... "sucked" isn't the word I would have used ^_^; But then, about 10 of my college buddies drove down from Edinboro to go to it... soooo having a large group of friends there helped ME enjoy it more... ^_^; Sometimes that makes all the difference in the world... MY only complaint was that they didn't have thier times straight and their cosplays  SUCKED... and they SCREWED my friends over during THEIR cosplay (sound wasn't working right). So no one could hear the music and that ruined the WHOLE effect. Oh and the guy who was supposed to be entertaining us while the judges made their decisions SUCKED. I wanted ... to kill him... if you want to see a err...  "creative" negative review of the event you should read the review on my message board:

http://www.el-hazardonline.net/cgi-bin/sarahsensei/YaBB.pl?board=news;action=display;num=1049048209

For a first year con, they did pretty well and if I were at home and not in GUAM I would totally go again.

I'm hearing some bad things from people who went to Otakon (seems it's getting much bigger and they just aren't making proper arrangements to accomodate its growth).

Tekkoshocon needs to work on some things... but if they take the time to figure out what went wrong and try to correct it, I expect this year will be better...

At least "Joy's Japanimation" had a booth  ^_^V That store kicks ass! (I just wish it were in Pittsburgh and not an hour away in Greensburg  -_-  )
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on October 04, 2003, 05:07:56 pm
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(I just wish it were in Pittsburgh and not an hour away in Greensburg  -_-  )


That's kind of moot to note for you now, isn't it?  :P
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Kathy Guinea on October 04, 2003, 07:55:32 pm
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That's kind of moot to note for you now, isn't it?  :P


eh heh  ^^; I suppose so. Though I DO plan on buying a ticket home for a month and a half in the summer... if I can find someone who will be willing to watch my house and mow my lawn >_> or the base lawn Nazis will cite me and kick me out of my house  :bawl (and they require you to get someone to come check on your house now and then >_< Maybe Diane will check on my house for me... she lives on the other side of base... )

Err anyhow... those are minor details... and I can deal with that when the time comes... err closer...

Heh maybe what I mean to say was, "I WISH JOY'S JAPANIMATION WAS RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO ME!!!"

Umm but if it were, I'd have no money... (not that I'll have any money after this Tokyo trip  :o )
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: xxdemongodifuritaxx on October 14, 2004, 01:40:07 am
I work in customer service for a grocery store. I get to handle people that are already upset about something and try my best to make them happy again but there are some people you just can't please no matter what you do. I usually just let it go in one ear and out the other. if not, then I'll just go in back and kick around some cardboard boxes. just to make some tension release. sometimes though I don't think I make enough to deal with some of the people I have dealt with before. one such horror story goes as this:

I had this one guy come in all the time and when he came up to the service desk counter this is our conversation:

me: yes, sir, how can I help you?
guy: when do you get off today?
me: not til much later, sir, so what can I do for you?
guy: you can come over to my house and clean
me: I'm sorry?
guy: "name of company" pays you to help the customer, so you should come to my house and clean
me: *narrows eyes* sir, I don't get paid to clean customer's houses
guy: yes you do
me: no, sir, I don't. now is there anything else I can do to help you?
guy: you just be ready later, when you get off, I'm coming to pick you up to take you home so you can get started
me: yeah, okay, have a nice day


that irritated me really badly because it seemed to me that he disrespected women so badly so he felt it his need to come harrass me daily on that kinda thing. and that's not the worst guy I get either.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Spanner on October 14, 2004, 08:21:21 am
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I work in customer service for a grocery store. I get to handle people that are already upset about something and try my best to make them happy again but there are some people you just can't please no matter what you do. I usually just let it go in one ear and out the other. if not, then I'll just go in back and kick around some cardboard boxes. just to make some tension release. sometimes though I don't think I make enough to deal with some of the people I have dealt with before. one such horror story goes as this:

I had this one guy come in all the time and when he came up to the service desk counter this is our conversation:

me: yes, sir, how can I help you?
guy: when do you get off today?
me: not til much later, sir, so what can I do for you?
guy: you can come over to my house and clean
me: I'm sorry?
guy: "name of company" pays you to help the customer, so you should come to my house and clean
me: *narrows eyes* sir, I don't get paid to clean customer's houses
guy: yes you do
me: no, sir, I don't. now is there anything else I can do to help you?
guy: you just be ready later, when you get off, I'm coming to pick you up to take you home so you can get started
me: yeah, okay, have a nice day


that irritated me really badly because it seemed to me that he disrespected women so badly so he felt it his need to come harrass me daily on that kinda thing. and that's not the worst guy I get either.

Meh. I've known other people in customer service jobs, and it simply boggles my mind that anyone would choose such a profession. Even the ones who are outgoing, and love meeting new people quickly become broken down and embittered by the endless string of morons who are too stupid to use the product and/or service properly.

At times like the one you mentioned above, I'll bet you wish you really DID have a Power Key Staff at your disposal:



Customer: Wuhman, come clean mah house!

Ifurita: Yessir! Happy to be of service!

Ifurita: *Arrives at customer's house*

Customer: I don't want to see even a speck of dust left when yer done. Ya hear?

Ifurita: *Concerned* Are you sure, sir?

Customer: That's right!

Ifurita: Well... Okay! *Brandishes staff* Ifurita Super Sanitization Blast! *Annihalates Customer's house in a tremendous explosion. Nothing is left but a crater.*

Customer: M-my house!

Ifurita: *Beaming* There, not even a tiny piece of dust left! *Bows* Thank you for using [Name of Company]'s customer service department!

Ifurita: *Floats off, leaving a weeping customer behind*
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: xxdemongodifuritaxx on October 14, 2004, 09:20:10 am
LMAO, oh if only I actually did have a keystaff. hehe. then I could also take care of the old pedofile perverts and the I want something for nothing creeps all in one shot. hehe, yeah, it is a stressful job and sometimes there are instances where I think "why am I doing this again?" but all in all, I think it will give me a good resume and I don't get many complaints. and its fun to have an over-ride key that over-rides the computers on the front end. mwahaha, behold the power of the key!

*wields the grand power of the over-ride key in hand waving it around in its splendor* lol. I guess its kinda like a key staff. not as powerful though
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: smkviper on October 15, 2004, 01:23:45 pm
Wondering if I should mention my job... ah what the heck: Video game programmer.

For this company (http://www.cyanworlds.com) ;D
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Saucer on October 15, 2004, 11:12:02 pm
The stupidity of most people is quite astounding. It's a miracle that the species has survived this long. What bothers me most though is not stupid people, but stupid people who think they're smarter then me. I find it insulting when some moron comes to my counter and tries to pull a fast one so transparent that it brings tears to my eyes.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: xxdemongodifuritaxx on October 16, 2004, 04:56:25 pm
these people make me so angry, here's the latest scam some guys are pulling on us. they come in and get a box of diapers. like one of those 72 pak boxes. then they empty out the diapers and hide them somewhere. well then the walk around and fill them up with all other types of merchandise. they have been reported to be filling them up with about 76 dvd's.they steal tape from the school supply aisle and tape up the box.  this doesn't stop here. they go to the check out and they hand the clerk a cardboard piece with a credit card number written down on it, the kind of cardboard thing that looks to be one of those pre-registered credit cards. *shrugs* anyways, so they get away with alot more merchandise than what they used the fake credit card for. this so infuriates me and I'm waiting for them to come to my store and try to pull that on me. I've been on the lookout at the registers for boxes of any kind. I told the cashiers to kinda casually shake the boxes of diapers that come through to be on the safe side and also remind them that a piece of cardboard is not a credit card. *sighs* it just angers me to no end what these jerks try to pull. clever though. I admit, it is a clever ploy but its annoying. must put a stop to them. *wields her uber henshin keystaff of doom at these creeps* don't make me punish you! and it won't be in a way that you would find enjoyable!! grrrr!!!
okies, Ifurita done ranting now....
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Saucer on October 16, 2004, 07:06:47 pm
Wow, that's a great idea! Combining two scams at once! *SARCASM* It's ironic how most people who want to pull scams aren't intelligent enough to even do it right. I think most of the time, they just get lucky... until they get caught. When I worked at Tower Records, I used to get people pulling sale tags off other CDs and sticking them over the regular price tag on the CD they wanted. It's like "Ummm..... nice one. I can see that you didn't even bother looking at any of our other sale items to see how and where we put sale tags. Better luck next time!"
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: xxdemongodifuritaxx on October 16, 2004, 09:56:52 pm
yeah, we had someone do that once but it was so amusing because they took off a tag from some chicken wings and put it on a pack of t-bone steaks and tried to come through my checkstand. I picked it up and saw that. I looked at her and said, "yeah, these are kinda funny looking chicken wings, I don't think you should get these." and I stuck them in my register cubby hole and stared at them point blank. they just smiled and left without another word. *shakes head* I'm not that stupid. ^^
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on October 16, 2004, 10:31:46 pm
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I looked at her and said, "yeah, these are kinda funny looking chicken wings, I don't think you should get these." and I stuck them in my register cubby hole and stared at them point blank. they just smiled and left without another word. *shakes head* I'm not that stupid. ^^


Baahaha.   XD
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: xxdemongodifuritaxx on October 17, 2004, 08:30:17 am
Baahaha.    

oh, that's not the best, we had someone else do that before and when I told them that I couldn't ring it up for that, she was all, "but the guy in the market was doing that to all of them just now" and I knew for a fact that no one was in market since like hours ago so I was just staring at her blankly before going, "Um...that'd be pretty hard since he hasn't been at work for a couple hours now. when exactly was this? *sighs and gets out the giant red stamp of doom reaching out and stamping the woman square in the forehead with the word "Dumbass"*

I would feel better if I could actually do that, but eventually, every customer would be wearing one. ~_~
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: smkviper on October 18, 2004, 10:56:05 am
Ahhh, working in retail. That brings back some fond memories.


Or not... (well, except for making fun of stupid customers) ;D

Customer: (pointing at computer monitor) "So this is the computer, and this" (pointing at computer) " is the modem?"

Me: *bangs head on nearby wall*
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: MrWhat on October 18, 2004, 09:09:25 pm
(EDIT:  Deleted an angry rant regarding my job.  It felt good to vent, but I don't like to leave things written in anger.  Thanks to all for the words of encouragement.)

Bob, if you're looking for a job in computer science?  My advice to you is... Run away.  Run far and run fast.  Run as if you had just accidentally glomped a nekkid Great Priestess of Fire.  I was a music major for my first two years of college, and I might have been better off as a starving composer.  Heck, I'm 35YO, and if I had become another Mozart, I'd already be dead by now.
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: xxdemongodifuritaxx on October 19, 2004, 10:23:04 am
geez....I could never work in a job like that. I have no knowledge really of computer lingo and stuff so I'd be lost in three seconds. I just have good people skills and can make the impression that I am doing good and am in a good mood when I'm really not and I want to throw half the customers into the ocean. heh. but its gotten me lots of jobs and has some previous ones wanting me back so I guess I'm doing something right. either that or I've noticed that good reliable people that come in on time and come in when they are supposed to are hard to find. we had two girls quit this week and its not like its going to be that harmful to us except we will be short of help. they weren't that good. one I think really didn't care about the job since she's still in school, the other is just too slow. she took so much time getting through one transaction that I had to call for a surge checker and I really hate doing that because the surge checkers kinda ignore me since I somewhat resemble an innocent looking nobody so they think they can walk all over me but in fact if they do, I'll just call management. *shrugs* ah well, what can you do honestly? sometimes you just have to throw those lemons back at life ya know? ^^  
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: smkviper on October 19, 2004, 11:33:48 am
Hmm... well I didn't really consider this a "bitch about your job" thread since I don't have any real problems with my current job ^^;

SmkViper runs away from an enraged forum population

*huff* *huff* too... out of shape... for this. Ok think I lost them.

Anyway, I just thought of this as a tell funny stupid customer stories. But since I don't have any customers, I have to tell stories from when I was working in retail.

And MrWhat, I feel your pain (yup, it's cliche, sorry), at least a little bit. I know what it feels like to at least have 1 and 1/2 years work thrown out because not enough people wanted it, instead of just dealing with stupid people (though there are more then enough of those that work at publishers, I can tell you that). Hope things look up for you soon! (hmm... no thumbs up smily...)

"Come back here you happy person with a good job!"

Dang it, they caught up with me again, later!

SmkViper zooms off again
Title: Re: jobs
Post by: Saucer on October 22, 2004, 07:07:17 pm
Speaking of dumb customer stories, I have quite a few. But the one that probably stands out as the most astonishingly, unbelievably stupid happened when I was working in the snack bar ( -_- ) at a movie theater. Some yuppie couple walks up to the counter, just as fresh popcorn is spilling out of the popper. Now, we did have a reputation for popping in advance sometimes, bagging it up and dumping it in the serving bins when we were swamped. But that's what happens when 5 big movies open on one night and people are herding to the snackbar like cattle (why don't you eat before you go to the movies, imbiciles.... ). But I mean, this was just being made! Anyway, the woman asks me, quite seriously, "Is the popcorn fresh when it comes out of the popper?" I just stared at her blankly, my mouth hanging open like that teacher from Azumanga Daioh. I was completely astonished at the utter stupidity...