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Title: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard movie>
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 11, 2003, 09:00:39 am

hey again people!

If Steven Spielberg discovers the great story of El Hazard and decides to make a movie out of it, who is the best hollywood actor/actresses would you like to play as your favorite El Hazard fan?

For me:

Ifurita
   - it should be Nicole Kidman because of her hair and vital statistics. It fits Ifurita.
   - or Angelina Jolie of Tomb Raider

Makoto
    - it should be ....... uhh.... I don't know yet

Jinnai
     - it should be Jim Carey because of his laugh or somethin.

Rune Venus
      - Me... hehehehe


So what about yours? Let it be heard!! ;D ;D ;D ;D :D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 11, 2003, 09:04:06 am
Well, sadly I'd drag everyone in EHOL into this. Instead of using famous people.

Makoto- Shayla's Raven

Jinnai- Rob

Fujisawa- Tim

Fatora- Rosh

Alielle- Me....

Shayla- If exe was a girl...

Afura- .....I don't know.

Ifurtia- Xel.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 11, 2003, 09:11:22 am

Good shot you got there!!!


Good alternative. i don't know those guys yet... hehehe but I know they are from El Hazard On Line.. Correct???


::) ;D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 11, 2003, 09:14:05 am
Yeah, they're all from EHOL.

most of us some of us, have nicknames. So you might get confused there. Nice to meet you!
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 11, 2003, 09:27:27 am

Im a newbie here so i got that stupid background character there... but I got a great ifurita pic....!!!

You guys are all el hazard fanatics thats why its so hard to prove my being EH fanatic here....

I wish i could know you more guys...


sorry for wrong grammars...

hehehe..

Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 11, 2003, 09:29:06 am
Erm... your pic still doesn't work, just so you know.  :-/

Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 11, 2003, 09:48:28 am


;DOh not still working???

I just fixed it... so you know....

Beauty of the demon goddess...


See???
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: executor82 on August 11, 2003, 10:05:59 am
Well, it actually still doesn't work  ^^;

Well, I think you made a little mistake Lar. I'd replace Rob with LGJ. (Sorry Rob, but he really seems to be more Jinnai-ish than you  ^^; )

BTW, nice to meet you ifurita-sama! I'm exe  ;D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on August 11, 2003, 10:36:44 am
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Well, I think you made a little mistake Lar. I'd replace Rob with LGJ. (Sorry Rob, but he really seems to be more Jinnai-ish than you  ^^; )


I think it was indirect ass-kissing.  But yes, I was just about to write that in myself.  :P  I renounce the Jinnai-ness of my presense on the forum.

ifurita-sama: Try this for your avatar --
http://www.el-hazardonline.net/cgi-bin/eholup/upload.cgi

The reason it doesn't work is because it's stored on Geocities, which does not allow "off-site linking".  That just means that no one can see your avatar unless they personally visit your Geocities site, whatever that may be.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on August 11, 2003, 02:59:07 pm
Well, if Spielberg ever makes an El-Hazard movie, there will have be distinct changes made in order for the film to be successful in the US.

First off, since the main characters are Japanese, Spielberg will have to make a decision. Either hire a Japanese cast (not bloody likely) or change their ethnicity to American.

Makoto Mizuhara shall be Michael Mizzerman. He shall be played by Dawson himself, James Van Derbeek.

Katsuhiko Jinnai shall be Christopher Jamison III. He shall be played by teen-fave Tom Greene, minus the goatee.

Nanami Jinnai is now Nina Jamison, and her role will go to some ubiquitous blonde chick.

As for Mr. Masamichi Fujisawa, he will now be ex-hippie Mr. Milton Fullerman. His binge-drinking will be brought to life by Eugene Levy, of American Pie fame.

Other changes will be Shinnanome High turning into Siccamoore High, Alielle and Fatora's lesbian shennanigans will be cut out, and El-Hazard's quasi Arabic look will be replaced with the more culturally friendly look of feudal Japan.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: theravenisdead on August 11, 2003, 03:35:46 pm
Me be Makoto? S\/\/337!  8)

It helps that I look similar to him, despite out different ethnic backgrounds ^_^ I should post a better pic of myself than the dark one I have in the Pictures thread in the Off-Topic forum.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Spanner on August 11, 2003, 03:47:41 pm
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Well, sadly I'd drag everyone in EHOL into this. Instead of using famous people.

Makoto- Shayla's Raven

Jinnai- Rob

Fujisawa- Tim

Fatora- Rosh

Alielle- Me....

Shayla- If exe was a girl...

Afura- .....I don't know.

Ifurtia- Xel.

*Sniff* Don't I get a part? :bawl

I work for cheap! Really!
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: kiddo on August 11, 2003, 05:42:44 pm
Hey, Spanner. It's not like I got a part yet either, unless they give me something that's random and totally out of my character...
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: MrWhat on August 11, 2003, 08:42:29 pm
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who is the best hollywood actor/actresses would you like to play as your favorite El Hazard fan?

Hello, ifurita-sama!

I once had a very realistic dream where I was watching a live-action El-Hazard movie.  But I don't know who was playing Makoto and Ifurita.

Off-topic-- I think Angelina Jolie and Winona Ryder should star in an Excel Saga movie as Excel and Hyatt.

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Well, if Spielberg ever makes an El-Hazard movie, there will have be distinct changes made in order for the film to be successful in the US.

In that case, I get to be the secret agent  ;D

<Austin_Powers>

JINNAI:  Ifurita, I want you to meet Daddy's nemesis, Mr. What.

TV-IFURITA:  What?  Why don't you just kill him?

JINNAI:  I have an even better idea. I'm going to place him in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death.

</Austin_Powers>
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Xel on August 12, 2003, 02:11:58 am
*squeek* Mweee, I get to be Iffy! *gives Rob annoyance-induced hives by demanding a "victory!" smiley*

But... am I badass depressed turncoat Iffy who will inevitably betray LGJ for Shayla's Raven, or am I the cute, happy, motorhome-heavy Iffy who stays true to her rightful master?  ;D Because I know who I WANT to be.

Lord Jinnai, I wish I could describe for you the horrified, head-shaking laugh I had at your vision of Spielberg's El-Hazard. Christopher Jamison III, indeed.

Though the thought of Jinnai-sama being played by Tom Green kills a part of my soul in a way I never thought possible.

But yeah... so many of us are neglected! So screw Spielberg! Spanner, you get to be our director! XD Rob-- production manager! Mr. What-- head scriptwriter!

...and Londs.  ^^;

*unnecessarily excited about the whole crazy idea*


EDIT: Though if we're talking OAV continuity, I'd happily take Diva instead. *cough* -_-
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 12, 2003, 07:02:40 am
Okay, the edited version: *sorry LGJ, I forgot about you when I posted this. :P don't kill me.*

Makoto- Shayla's Raven

Jinnai- LGJ

Fujisawa- Tim

Fatora- Rosh

Alielle- Me....

Shayla- If exe was a girl...

Afura- .....Lets dress Spanner up.  |D

Ifurtia- Xel. (any iffy, I don't really care)

Londs- Kiddo...well it's a part that is nothing like him, so sue me. (please don't I have no money. :P)

Miz- ...We have a shortage of Women on this site...ifurita-sama

Nanami- Kathy...she is gonna kill me...maybe...

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<Austin_Powers>

JINNAI:  Ifurita, I want you to meet Daddy's nemesis, Mr. What.

TV-IFURITA:  What?  Why don't you just kill him?

JINNAI:  I have an even better idea. I'm going to place him in an easily escapable situation involving an overly elaborate and exotic death.  

</Austin_Powers>


The Austin Powers movies were some of my faves! ^_^
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Spanner on August 12, 2003, 07:55:34 am
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But yeah... so many of us are neglected! So screw Spielberg! Spanner, you get to be our director! XD Rob-- production manager! Mr. What-- head scriptwriter!

Woohoo! Director! Yeahbaby! Oscars, here we come!

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Afura- .....Lets dress Spanner up.  |D

...

That works, too! And it will scar so many people on so many levels! I love it!

Better yet, I can direct AND dress as Afura, both on the set and off! It'll be like Ed Wood all over again! XD
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on August 12, 2003, 08:38:40 am
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That works, too! And it will scar so many people on so many levels! I love it!


Same thing happened when MJF dressed up as his own daughter in BTTF2; so many a fan were scarred because a lot of the guys thought she looked "hot" XD  (I personally always thought something looked wrong about her :P)


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Better yet, I can direct AND dress as Afura, both on the set and off! It'll be like Ed Wood all over again! XD


Wow... just wow...
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 12, 2003, 11:40:15 am
Is anyone else worried about the mental sanity of these people?
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on August 12, 2003, 11:47:14 am
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Is anyone else worried about the mental sanity of these people?


No, not really.

*plots to steal Roshtaria's supply of poppy cock*
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Neil Lafrenais on August 12, 2003, 04:19:54 pm
FLOWERS DON'T HAVE PENISES.

... um, yeah.

Anyway, thought of this thousands of times. Decided that it wouldn't work at all. So, yeah.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: MrWhat on August 12, 2003, 08:13:29 pm
Okay, I thought of a possible OVA-Ifurita:  Liv Tyler.  This was the most Ifurita-esque picture of her that I found with a quick GIS.
(http://www.videovista.net/gwg/livtyler1.jpg)

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Spanner, you get to be our director! XD Rob-- production manager! Mr. What-- head scriptwriter!

We may joke about this... but there's a lot of fan-produced video out there.  A "movie" might be a bit much, but we probably could've done a short film, or a parody skit, or something, if some of us lived closer together.

There were at least one or two El-Hazard skits put on at conventions, weren't there?  I think I saw some pictures from something like that.

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...and Londs.  ^^;

You must have seen some of those pictures of me with my grad-student beard.  I'd have to lose about 40 pounds to play Londs, though.  That dude is skinny.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 13, 2003, 09:18:55 am
Well, lets just say, by looking at a pic of Liv Tyler, you are seeing me all growed up. :P And with bigger Boobs, and better skin.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: executor82 on August 13, 2003, 09:58:49 am
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Okay, I thought of a possible OVA-Ifurita:  Liv Tyler.  This was the most Ifurita-esque picture of her that I found with a quick GIS.

GO LIFFY GO!  |D
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Well, lets just say, by looking at a pic of Liv Tyler, you are seeing me all growed up.  And with bigger Boobs, and better skin.


=,] Wha....??

You sure about that?  -_-
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 13, 2003, 10:01:29 am
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 =,] Wha....??

You sure about that?  -_-  


Well, loads of people say I look like Liv, so...that's how.

Just think Exe, we're gonna dress you up in a Shayla-Shayla costume, and stick balloons down you top. :P
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: executor82 on August 13, 2003, 10:10:01 am
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Just think Exe, we're gonna dress you up in a Shayla-Shayla costume, and stick balloons down you top.


http://www.8ung.at/executor82/Images/Misc/Exe-Shayla.jpg

And finally I got boobs!  ;D

*pulls out his old zippo* Now get ready to be.......toasted!
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 13, 2003, 10:34:04 am
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http://www.8ung.at/executor82/Images/Misc/Exe-Shayla.jpg


It doesn't look like you though. But I guess you're just excited because of the boobs, right exe?
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: executor82 on August 13, 2003, 10:40:18 am
Well I used a filter on that image to create the effect of being pencil drawn in photoshop. Seems that it didn't work out too good.  ^^;
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Xel on August 14, 2003, 12:07:29 am
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You must have seen some of those pictures of me with my grad-student beard.  I'd have to lose about 40 pounds to play Londs, though.  That dude is skinny.


Actually, I was thinking of your eerie alleyway photo booth pic the entire time.  

Make of that what you will.  :|

Considering that about 70% of American El Hazard fans* are located in or have ties to Minnesota, I move that we all gather here so I can put in the minimum of money and effort and produce the most godawful piece of fan-tripe the world has ever seen!

*all statistics are presented with a certain margin of error and were not gathered from reputable sources.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Xel on August 14, 2003, 12:19:29 am
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Though the thought of Jinnai-sama being played by Tom Green kills a part of my soul in a way I never thought possible.


Well, here I was, going off to check my LJ stuff when I spotted this again. I was just going to go on my merry way, but suddenly, as if t'were an epiphany, TOM GREEN'S FACE BURNED ITSELF INTO MY RETINAS and I fell to the cold, cold ground with thoughts of everyone's favorite dictator dementedly spouting "Daddy would you like some sausage? Daddy would you like some sausage?"

......

*curls up and cries like a child*

Somebody hold me.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on August 14, 2003, 01:00:29 am
BWAH HAH HAH!

Operation "Break Xel's Sanity" has worked like a charm! My evil genius knows no bounds!

Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Fujisawa4654 on August 14, 2003, 01:54:48 am
 -_-
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Xel on August 14, 2003, 04:21:59 am
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BWAH HAH HAH!

Operation "Break Xel's Sanity" has worked like a charm! My evil genius knows no bounds!



*still weeping*  :bawl


....... *brief moment of contemplation* ... ?


Eeeeeh?  :o

But...! But...! Lord Jinnai, sir! Wouldn't breaking my sanity make me staggeringly less efficient as your lackey? *blinkblink*

Remember, I'm the best you have~![/size]  |D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on August 14, 2003, 07:56:26 am
Wow.  I give this topic a one-more-reply chance to get back on track or lock-down it goes.   ^^;
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Xel on August 14, 2003, 04:55:25 pm
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Wow.  I give this topic a one-more-reply chance to get back on track or lock-down it goes.   ^^;


Geh! ._. Forgive me, EHOL God. I do believe I am incapable of NOT spamming.  ^^;

In any case, I'm really not sure if it's at all desirable for, well, SPIELBERG to do anything originally based off of anime. O_o; Though it's interesting to consider the possibilities...

Tarantino EH. Ang Lee EH. Spike Lee EH. Wachowski Brothers EH. I'd LOVE to see that.  ;D Cast choices would have to be taken into consideration following that, of course.

... Though I thought of Eugene Levy as Fujisawa while driving to the store yesterday and it just brought a smile to my face.  ^^; C'mon... doesn't it just make you laugh for some reason?
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 14, 2003, 05:04:34 pm
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Geh! ._. Forgive me, EHOL God. I do believe I am incapable of NOT spamming.


I do believe we have something in common.  ;)

And think about it this way, from what I can tell, I wasn't the one who started spamming this topic. VICTORY!!!  ;D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Makoto Mizuhara on August 18, 2003, 12:59:34 pm
Boy, am I late joining this topic or what?  :|

Actually, I haven't been around anywhere lately, being kept away from message boards and such faire.  I would like to say I've been spending the time away working on finishing the website, but alas, it's been spent on things like scanning a huge portfolio of old photos and career planning.  And seeing as I rented Silent Hill 3 this weekend, any spare time I DID have was going into that so as to beat the story before it needed returning.

*ahem*

Anyway, onto the topic at hand...

Let me tell you, as a graduate of a television, radio, and film program, adapting anything from one source to another is a hard process filled with the stress of constantly trying to walk a fine tightrope.

Some people see a "can't miss" property and think that if they turned it into a movie/television show/video game it would be a sure hit.

Look at the last five years and the adaption of comics and video games to film.  Some were thought to be sure thing big budget blockbusters and ended yup not covering the costs of production.  What went wrong?

Well in a lot of cases, they didn't take care enough in the adaptation process.  Sometimes it was the script, or the casting choices, or the choice of director.  Sometimes, producers complete misunderstood or misunderestimated their target audiences.

One of the best examples of a Adaptation done well is the American version of "The Ring."  I've seen both versions and read the original novel.  All three are different in many key areas, yet all three work very well because in each case, the adaptation process was carefully considered.

How could what was originally a Japanese horror story work so well for an American audience?  Because they didn't just xerox the script and then throw in big name American actors or a popular director.  They tweaked and changed the story as to keep the key story elements, yet they worked more on WESTERN psychological fears by using easily recognizable western icons.

*ahem*

But that is starting to stray off the topic.  So lets get to the meat of the matter, shall we?  

We have this property, El-Hazard: The Magnificent World.  Let's just say that some financial backers and a studio see this property as an opportunity to make money, so they decide to invest a lot of money into making a movie to be released say, in the summer, as their big money summer film. (Time of film's release do play into some decisions, but I won't get into that here.)

So, now we have a property greenlit for adaptation.  We now have several key decisions to make.

1. Which El-Hazard Property are we going to use to adapt?  

- Well, we have a few choices.  OVA series, TV Series, or the Manga storyline.  Since all other El-Hazard stories have a connection to one of those three or at least are similar to one of those three, we'll narrow our choices to one of those three.

Well, Let's scratch TV off because the entire story took 26  1/2 hour episodes to tell it's story.  In order to adapt this series, too much would have to be cut out and changed.

OVA would seem like a good choice. The original story only took about 4 hours to tell, which could easily be trimmed down to fit a 2 hour time frame.  A lot of revisions to story would have to be made, but it shouldn't pose too much of a problem to a talented scriptwriter.

Surprising the best choice would the Manga.  It's only 16 chapters. The pacing is fast-paced with grandoise battle scenes while it still keeps the core story in tact. It would be a very good choice to adapt for a film.  

Yes, I know that El-Hazard fans would cry foul over that choice, but remember this decision of what choice would be the best to be adapted is made to appeal to the largest audience possible.  Hard core El-Hazard fans are a small minority at best.  

So who is the audience we have targeted?  Well, beside anime fans who would most likely go to see it out of curiousity (Because despite the fact that it would be an American live action film, it will still probably be reported as an adaption of an anime story by the Hollywood trades.)  That makes up a small chunk, along with the El-Hazard fans.

However the biggest core audience would be Patrons of Adventure Films.  Heavily Male between the ages of 13 and late 40's.  Like stories that involve adventuring with a bit of action.  Fight Scenes, expolosions, and special effects are appreciated but not required (As opposed to the ACTION Movie Patron.) The most important part is the adventure part of the story.  New locales, inventions, and romantic interests.  A sort of escapist fantasy as it were.  Examples of the movies a typical adventure film fan would watch: Indiana Jones, James Bond 007, The Mummy Series, etc.

Okay, so we've targeted our audience and our source material.  We want to create a two hour adventure movie that will keep audiences glued to the story while still adding enough action and romance to attract the other fringe audiences.

So, now we have a scriptwriter(s) working on adapting our adaptation.  For argument's sake and to appease the hardcore fan, let's say that they are adapting the original OVA story.  Let's also say that budget is not that much of a consideration and it is extremely well funded (Though, in real life, such a risky prospect of converting an anime into a live-action film would have a hard time securing a blockbuster budget.  Though, not impossible. The Evangelion LA Pic in pre-production now is proof of that.)

Now we need to start choosing production staff to turn the now adapted original image into something that will appeal to a mass audience.   We need a director.

For El-Hazard, we have a few good choices (and again this is an imaginary world where anyone we wanted was readily available or willing to take on the project.)

First up is George Lucas.  He's got experience in creating new worlds for film and has experience in adventure story telling.  His special effects studio is second to none and it would definately be a visual delight.  The problems with him is that he likes to tinker a LOT with his creations and also tends to put himself on script duty and casting, both of which he has not had a steller record as of late.  He'd be a good choice if we keep him away from the script and casting.

Next up is Ridley Scott.  Again, good at creating an entire world (Gladiator.)  However, he is often more associated with more action-oriented films and that may give people the false impression about this movie.

The third choice would be Peter Jackson.  His name would garner instant attention, plus he has experience on producing big budget films that require all three of our needs.  An adventure story, an adaptation of an original source, and story that needs an entire world created.  

Jackson seems like the best choice because he has recent success (which appeals to backers), he has a good track record of staying loyal to source material while also making it accessible to a mass audience (that would appease hardcore fans), and he has the tools to create El-Hazard as a display for the eye and mind.  

So, now we picked our director.  Okay, now word has gotten out that Peter Jackson has just signed on to direct a new movie.  An adaptation of an Japanese anime, no less.  Another benefit of picking a big time director is that things he does create a buzz, which help in advertising and generating interest in our film.

Now, it's time to start casting. Obviously, we need to remember that we are trying to appeal to an American Audience, so like LGJ said earlier, there will have to be some name changes.  However, I see no need to change the overall setting (in terms of El-Hazard.  An Arabianesque world would definately be appealing for an adenture type film, as opposed to a Asian setting, which has lately been flooding the market and audiences may see it as "another Crouching Tiger/Jackie Chan affair.)

However, back to casting, I see this film as opportunity to bring in several new young talents who are relatively unknown or only known inside a small circle of devoted fans.  I would however choose, 1-4 "marquee" talents to help give the film credibility.  

Why wouldn't I make this a star studded affair or a "dream cast" project?  Simple.  There's only so much spotlight to go around.  A lot of times people think that if they put 10 Oscar winning actors on screen at the same time, it will be a hit.  What happens a lot of times is that the actors end up trying to bring the focus on themselve and away from the story.  Also, there are things like on on-screen chemistry and the backstage egos to consider(all of which can make or break a film project.)

So, new names aside, whatever they may end up being, here is some casting choices:

"Makoto" - Toby MacGwire.  A slightly nerdish looking, but still attractive actor who is starting to make himself big.  He still passes for 17-18 and like Makoto, he can look nerdish but still be athletic and popular.

"Nanami" - Though I'm not a fan of Buffy, I think Sarah Michele Geller would do a good job with this character. Tough, independent, yet still occasionally childish.

"Mr. Fujisawa" - Though, I think this may be a role best suited to a relative unknown. I do have a soft spot for Bruce Campbell, who can flex his muscles, has great screen presence and doesn't take himself too seriously, which is why he would be well suited to take on the role of our favorite drunko.

Those are the only cast members I can think of at the top of my head at the moment.  though, if we do rely on casting new/unknown/lesser known actors, roles like Jinnai and Ifurita may very well provide the opportunity for a new break-out star to emerge in Hollywood.

This is getting rather lengthy so I'll wrap this up.  I know we still have the final script to figure out which will determine things like the pace of the story, which scenes get cut/altered and maybe even some characters get left on the cutting room floor.

Anyway, now you know a little more about what an incredible pain in the ass it is to try and adapt anything.

And knowing is half the battle.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Spanner on August 18, 2003, 01:57:56 pm
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And knowing is half the battle.

*Sings* G.I.Jooooooooe!!!

Ahem.

Sorry 'bout that.

Anyway, wow. That was quite an exposition. You almost make me think that a thing like this is remotely possible. And that's in spite of the fact that your whole point was to point out how very difficult such a thing would be. ;D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Makoto Mizuhara on August 18, 2003, 02:50:21 pm
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And knowing is half the battle.  


*Sings* G.I.Jooooooooe!!!

Ahem.

Sorry 'bout that.

Anyway, wow. That was quite an exposition. You almost make me think that a thing like this is remotely possible. And that's in spite of the fact that your whole point was to point out how very difficult such a thing would be.  


Difficult, yes.  Impossible, no.  8)

Personally, I would love to try and adapt El-Hazard to a 2-hour screenplay.  I have a few ideas rolling around in my head that would work for the more action oriented western audience while staying true to the heart of the story.

The hardest thing would securing any sort of funding along with licensing... which is the biggest pain with any sort of adaptation.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 24, 2003, 06:11:43 am
 ::) I probably think that if steven spielberg would make the El Hazard live movie, it would be fascinating...


Hey people! Did anybody know where we can suggest this El Hazard story to him in person or email??

We can make it come true!! My gosh! it would be.... bravo!


So please anybody...
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 24, 2003, 07:37:58 am
What I think would be funny, would be if he did make one, and asked all of us to take part. We could all become our favourite EH characters! ;D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 26, 2003, 06:56:58 am

That would be great....

its only a matter of chance actually....
(Pana-panahon lang yan, no!)

THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS WHILE YOU'RE ALIVE, ISN'T IT? ::) ::) ;D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on August 26, 2003, 08:57:12 am
Well, realistically guys.  I mean, we can all cosplay at some anime con as our favorite characters.  But for a movie production, you'd DEFINITELY want to cast.  I'm sure many of us aren't born into any particular character roles.  I mean, c'mon... Jim Carrey as Jinnai.  You can't beat such a suggestion.  ;D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 26, 2003, 11:05:28 am
I can't even remember what Jim Carrey looks like. :bawl
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: fesodes on August 26, 2003, 03:02:18 pm
Makoto, you have any idea how much such a production would cost?  Btw, anyone know how much OAV 1 cost to produce?
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on August 26, 2003, 05:37:38 pm
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I can't even remember what Jim Carrey looks like. :bawl


(http://www.el-hazardonline.net/El-Hazard/temp/rob/comparison.jpg)

Not only does he have looks similar to Jinnai (especially the lower image, with just a little bit of make-up needed for perfection), but Carrey is a real-deal nutcase.  I don't know anyone better who could play Jinnai.  ;)
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 27, 2003, 10:31:09 am
Woah! :o he does look almost exactly like him. I wonder if he realises that.  ^^;
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Makoto Mizuhara on August 27, 2003, 10:33:08 am
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Posted by: fesodes Posted on: Aug 26th, 2003, 4:02pm
Makoto, you have any idea how much such a production would cost?  Btw, anyone know how much OAV 1 cost to produce?  


If this one is directed to me, then I guess I'll try to answer it, assuming that it wasn't a rhetorical question.

Question: How much would a movie production cost?  

Answer: As much as the financial backers are willing to spend.

Yep, the great burden that directors have to bear is that they have to often work around the limits of what they have, be it talent, resources, or funds.

Anything under the 5 million budget mark is usually considered to be a "Low Budget Movie." (Yeah, "Low"... I know I would kill for that kind of budget right now.)

However, low-budget doesn't necessarily mean "bad."  I've seen several movies that were produced for under 100,000 and they were terrific.  However, those movies were not dependent on high profile effects or expensive equipment.  Those movies were good because of quality scriptwriting and acting.  

A lot of famous directors started off by doing these "low-budget" films and even though the movies looked "cheap" they provided these people a chance to show what they could do when they don't HAVE the budget of their big studio brethren.  Because they can produce good movies without the high funds, studios were willing to give them shots on high profile projects with large budgets. Kevin Smith, Sam Raimi, Peter Jackson, etc...

However, back to the topic:  The budget for an El-Hazard film.   It's difficult to guess.  First of all, if you were trying to sell this license to a studio, you would have to convince people that THIS would be a movie that people will go out to see and therefore, any money invested will be made back and then, there will be a profit.

In all honesty, if you wanted to produce a GOOD version of El-Hazard on film, you would need a HUGE Budget.  Imagine the task you have staring you in the face:  Creating another world, creating armies of robotic-like bugs, creating a giant satelite in the sky.  For all these, you would have to build both sets and create special FX.

This type of project is something comparible to Lord of the Rings, which means you are looking at a likely 100 Million dollar budget requirement.

Now, if you can convince financial backers that an El-Hazard Movie would make that much to cover costs and then actually make a profit, then you are a silver tongued devil.

That's not to say that you couldn't do an El-Hazard movie on a smaller budget.  Corners can always be cut.  Just remember this Hollywood adage:

"You get what you pay for."

Sorry to be a buzzkill, but Hollywood is a cruel bitch-goddess.  
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 27, 2003, 11:13:23 pm

HEY ROB!!

YOU HAve a nice JIM CARREY and JINNAI Pic!!! Gosshhh!! Its really funny! I think it should be Jim Carey as JINNAI KATSUHIKO!!

-----olololololo------

To those who are new to this topic and is too busy to go at the first page of this topic, PLEASE READ...

hey again people!

If Steven Spielberg discovers the great story of El Hazard and decides to make a movie out of it, who is the best hollywood actor/actresses would you like to play as your favorite El Hazard fan?

For me:

Ifurita
   - it should be Nicole Kidman because of her hair and vital statistics. It fits Ifurita.  
   - or Angelina Jolie of Tomb Raider
   - ME!!!!   ;D ;D =,] ::) :-X -_-

Makoto
    - it should be ....... uhh.... I don't know yet

Jinnai
- it should be Jim Carey because of his laugh or somethin.

Rune Venus
 - Me... hehehehe


So what about yours? Let it be heard!!      

------ololololololo--------

NOT UPDATED YET???
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 27, 2003, 11:20:50 pm


MAKOTO!!  Oh my DARlin' Makoto! :-*


I think you're right.....
BUT The Possibilities are still endless...

If El Hazard Movie is very expensive cuz of the setups... I think STEVEN SPIELBERG would be challenged...


EL HAZARD Would be A POTENTIAL HOLLYWOOD Hit!!

;D ;)
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 28, 2003, 01:25:24 am

Hey guys!

Is my picture viewable or not?
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Spanner on August 28, 2003, 07:56:12 am
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Hey guys!

Is my picture viewable or not?

*Shakes head* Nope, at least not by me. All I get is the standard red X for a nonviewable image in Internet Explorer.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on August 28, 2003, 09:22:55 am
If you manually copy and paste the URL to the image -- http://www.geocities.com/goddessiphreeta/mainpicside.gif -- into a blank IE window (enter address "about:blank") it'll view it.  Alternatively, you go to her site first (http://www.geocities.com/goddessiphreeta/) and then C+P the URL into the window currently viewing the page.  Both of these are to bypass the anti-offsite linking policy of Geocities that's not allowing this to work.  (That is, people coming from el-hazardonline.net are not allowed to directly access images and other non-HTML/text data from Geocities.)

Fortunately, there's a solution provided by me.  Store your avatar right here!

http://www.el-hazardonline.net/cgi-bin/eholup/upload.cgi
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 28, 2003, 01:13:38 pm
Haven't we had both of these conversations before?  :-/
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Xel on August 28, 2003, 05:00:44 pm
Oooooh! Thanks a lot, Rob! That'll be delightful for people like me, who have no reliable webspace... ^_^;

Now you'll get to see my sidepic aaaaall the tiiiiiiime! |D

*throws confetti!*
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 31, 2003, 03:17:44 am
 >:( I Had enough of my PIC!!
:bawl
Ahhh.....

Thanks Rob for your help.

Arigaato guzaimasu

SO I GUESS MY PIC IS VIEWABLE NOW.... ;D -_-

Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on August 31, 2003, 09:35:56 am
WOOOOO!!!  :P

Finally! And it's a great pic too. ;D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on August 31, 2003, 11:00:57 pm
 ;D

Thanks!!!

I hope Spielberg will meet me soon cuz he doesn't know I exist... Hehehe

:D
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Tsuzuki Asato on September 01, 2003, 06:20:45 am



Yeah... I hope Spielberg will discover you soon...

You're so pretty Ifurita... They don't know how pretty you really are... =,]
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Tsuzuki Asato on September 01, 2003, 06:56:43 am



Let me get serious this time...

If Spielberg will make the El Hazard Movie, it would be a very good one. Maybe a lot more better than the Harry Potter Movies. Since the EH characters are unique, it would gain more popularity and the old El Hazard fans would be revived.

So I think if Steven will discover this El Hazard world of animation, it would be a very spectacular one although it needs a huge amount of budget.
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on September 01, 2003, 12:22:47 pm
He's scaring me. HELP!!! *I know it ain't me he's hitting on, but hey! He's scaring me anyway. :P ;D *
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: theravenisdead on September 01, 2003, 12:28:29 pm
You have not experienced fear untill you've watched an El Hazard episode play back in your mind, with Londs being played by an animated Richard Simmons.

Horror hath no furry  :bawl

...

On another note, he's trippin me out too  ^^;
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: larewen_evenstar on September 01, 2003, 01:36:33 pm
ARGH!!! :o OH THE HORROR!!!
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: DNAngel Daisuke on September 22, 2003, 09:05:20 am

Hehe..

I came so late for this hot topic..

My opinion is if Stevie will really make an EH movie for Hidetomo Tsubura, i think it would be unpredictable..
^^;
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Ragnarok Addict on September 25, 2003, 09:02:08 pm



Stevie wont make an El Hazard Movie anyway so whats the use??

Stevie makes his own movies from his own ideas. So why would he create this El Hazard Movie? That would insult him... I think planning to make an EH movie is stupid...

Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings Movies are better....

>:(
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Makoto Mizuhara on September 26, 2003, 12:07:19 am
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Stevie wont make an El Hazard Movie anyway so whats the use??

Stevie makes his own movies from his own ideas. So why would he create this El Hazard Movie? That would insult him... I think planning to make an EH movie is stupid...

Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings Movies are better....

>:(


Um... bit touchy on the subject, eh?  ^^;

Not to criticize your opinion, which everyone is entitled to have, but you may have been just a bit um... mean-spirited in your delivery.

Actually, Mr. Spielberg quite often does movies that are not based on his own ideas.  In fact, in the last 20 years, the hat he's worn most of all is that of "Executive Producer" which means that he may not be directly responsible for actually making the movie, he (Or in most cases, his comapnies Dreamworks or Amblin) is responsible for funding the films, making sure that they get made on time and on budget,  and making sure people go out and see them.

Some Notable films that Spielberg is attached to the credits but did not create:

Back to the Future
Shrek
An American Tail
Taken
Men In Black
Evolution

Plus several TV projects too numerous to count, including one of my favorite TV series as a child "Amazing Stories."

So, I'm not sure how much of an "Insult" it would be to suggest that he could produce an El-Hazard Movie, considering he's been doing projects based on other people's ideas for longer than most of us have been alive and pretty successfully too.

As for why people want to discuss their own hopes for such a thing as a Live-Action verison of El-Hazard, I see no need to call it "stupid."

Do I think it will ever happen?  Probably not. Nor do I really see AIC reviving the franchise.  But there's no need to go about and attack other people's wishful thoughts.  If they want to dream and speculate and hope and desire, why should the more cynical of us try and stomp on their fun.

They're merely expressing their fandom in the way they wish and I say "More power to them."  I express my fandom for El-Hazard in my own way.  Robby expresses his in his own way.  So does Spanner, and Yes, even LGJ (Though, his expression of fandom, for some reason, seems to constantly call for my head.)

Fandom is about being a fan of the work, not trying to be the "Best Fan."
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Lord God Jinnai on September 26, 2003, 01:19:04 am
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... and Yes, even LGJ (Though, his expression of fandom, for some reason, seems to constantly call for my head.)




Nothin personal, Mak, jus' stayin in character.

**continues to sharpen axe**
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on September 26, 2003, 02:58:38 am


*thinks of a powerful revenge to Ragnarok Addict*

This is for what you did to me on the Avatar issue at the " WHAT MAKES YOU BLUSH" topic and to other El Hazard related topic...


Revenge...revenge!!
Mr. Know-it-all! You dont know whats comin at ya!!
You should keep in mind that we all make mistakes >:(. And if someone commits a mistake, you should just keep your mouth shut...

And... How dare you say making and EH movie is STUPID?! Ubaka ZARU!

I think you want to make the EH all by yourself,huh?


BWAHAHAHAHAHWAHAHAHA..
I admit that I commit mistakes sometimes but I urge myself to learn!!

Shame on you, Ragnarok!
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Tsuzuki Asato on September 26, 2003, 03:48:16 am


:o What?! You Ragnarok dude! You mess with my Aya. How dare you!

You kicked me on the ass on that Birthday thread with yer bro, DNAngel Daisuke and now... uuuuhhhh >:(!!

Let me get this straight to your throat,dude! Its okey to kick me on the ass but messing with Aya is a different issue...

-------0000000000000--------------

Steven would not be insulted... He'll be proud making the EH movie.. I hope he will notice El Hazard soon...
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Captain Southbird (EHOL Creator) on September 26, 2003, 07:44:28 am
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They're merely expressing their fandom in the way they wish and I say "More power to them."  I express my fandom for El-Hazard in my own way.  Robby expresses his in his own way.


Yup.  And I guess I have no reason to throttle you anymore ;D since I resigned as resident Jinnai.

(http://www.el-hazardonline.net/El-Hazard/temp/rob/beforeyou.gif)
The one you see before you (LGJ) is the REAL Jinnai around here.  

Well, that and I don't care about the petty issues anymore.  Whatever they were.


Aya, Tsuzuki, Ragnarok -- let's chill, huh?  Especially the last two; you guys ... I have no idea what you're doing, but you're making too many emoti-posts.  :P
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Aya Mikage on September 26, 2003, 09:54:02 pm



Okey Rob.... You can trust me... but not those two..
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Ragnarok Addict on September 29, 2003, 07:41:21 am


XO  Hehehe.. Okay.. No comment....
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: solaar on September 20, 2004, 02:45:52 pm
>_>
<_<

*ahem* I return!  ^^; OK, so no one knows me. But I assure you that sometime ago, I posted muchly on this board. Biggest fan-boy of Alielle EVAH. Why return now? And in an old topic? Ehh... I dunno. Give me some time on that one.

But, I digress. Being somewhat of a film buff, I've been able to nail actors to certain parts pretty accuratley. (BTW, my Matthew McCoughnehey as Tony Stark/Iron Man casting still stands) So, I now volunteer my ability to the El-Hazard feature film.

First of all, let us all remember that some of the main characters in El-Hazard are very young adults. Jim Carrey as Jinnai is... stretching it. Second, I'm going to be using American actors. This would suggest that the Japanese characters in the movie will not be Japanese, and would most likely be given American names. Sad, but true. *ding* Ooh, good song... and third, there is no way in Hell that this all-star cast could ever be... well, cast. Along with the fantastical special effects that are needed, this movie would cost more than Star Wars. So, these are just actors and actresses whom I think could fill the roles best.

Makoto - This is the only one I was truly stumped on. Damn you Makoto, for being so obscure!

Nanami - Lindsey Lohan - Watch "Freaky Friday".

Jinnai - Matthew Lillard - Watch "Scream".

Mr. Fujisawa - Bill Pullman - Watch "Spaceballs".

Rune Venus - Drew Barrymore - Watch "Never Been Kissed".

Londs - Michael Clarke Duncan - Watch "The Whole Nine Yards".

Diva - Lucy Lawless - Watch "Eurotrip".

Galus - Christian Bale - Watch "American Psycho".

Alielle - Christina Ricci - Honestly, I don't have a specific movie to reference here. But her looks and personality could pull off Alielle, no problem. ^_^

Afura Mann - Sandra Bullock - Watch "Murder By Numbers".

Shayla Shayla - Julianne Moore - Watch "Evolution".

Miz - Uma Thurman - Watch "Kill Bill".

Ifurita - Nicole Kidman - Watch "Batman Forever".

Fatora - Rose McGowan - Watch "Charmed".

Now, I know some of you might have some qualms as to why I chose those particular actors and actresses. Well, that's why I tacked on the movie references. You want to see those people in similar roles? Watch those movies. And now... I take my leave. Back to work!
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: Kathy Guinea on September 20, 2004, 05:46:08 pm
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Ifurita - Nicole Kidman - Watch "Batman Forever".


Let's cut movie costs and cast me as Ifurita... I think I can pull off the Iffy look.

And as for acting... I'm a teacher. I have to find ways to entertain 8 hours a day 5 days a week... :p sooo yeah... I can do that.

Actually, if I were to do things over again, I would have gone into theatre instead of art ed... buuuuuut I probably wouldn't have a job right now either ^^;
Title: Re: If Steven Spielberg will make the El Hazard mo
Post by: JockoMegane on September 28, 2004, 11:00:18 pm


I have to say that Solaar's casting is pretty good.  On the choice of director, while Spielberg or Peter Jackson would do a credible job, I would prefer to think somewhat outside the box:

1.  Phillip Kaufman (mostly known for "The Right Stuff."  He can keep a long narrative going, and has an interest in a wide range of subjects.)

2.  Vincent Ward (excellant visual stylist, mostly known for being one of the fired directors of "Alien 3" and also for "What Dreams May Come.")

3.  Nicholas Meyer (he did Star Trek II: The Wrath of Kahn.  Solid hired gun/screenwriter when working with the right material.)

4.  Joe Johnston ("Rocketeer," "Hidalgo", "Jumanji."  Good sense of wonder.)

5. Ridley Scott  (if he has a good screenplay adaptation of El-Hazard, set him lose).