El-Hazard Online
General => El-Hazard Online => Topic started by: Spanner on June 11, 2003, 10:34:10 am
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To this day, I still can't really figure out what drew me to it... the cover art was not particularly inspiring (anyone who wants to see what the VHS covers looked like back then, I'll be scanning and donating them to Rob, hopefully by next week ^_^), and the blurb describing it made it sound pretty generic ("High school students are transported to another dimension... gain strange new powers... save the day..." Gee, where have we heard that before?). Still, I picked up the first volume of OAV1, and was instantly hooked!
I wrote this in the "age" topic in the "Not El-Hazard Online" forum. So, the answer to how I got hooked, was I pretty much picked up El-Hazard on a whim, even though there was nothing about it that should have attracted me. (Well, I did think that the girl on the cover of volume one - Nanami - was cute... Maybe that was it. ^_^) I'm sure glad I did, though.
So, how about the rest of you? How did you learn about El-Hazard? What led you to try it out? Or, in the case of some of our members, what led you to hang around in El-Hazard forums even though you haven't actually seen the show? ;D
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Well, you see. I was looking around on the net for anime images, and I came across a few images of Shayla-Shayla. I looked at some other images from El Hazard, and thought that the art was really good, and the fact that Shayla reminds me of Washu, I suppose I got an instant liking for it.
I have seen the first two episodes of EH2. The only thing is that El Hazard hasn't been fully released in this country, so I can't get it until it is. I mean, things like sailor moon, tenchi and gundam, were only aired here a few years ago, and only came out on Video and DVD about six months ago. Sailor moon only came out this March, so as you can imagine, I haven't had the chance to watch the whole series' yet. ::)
I am planning to buy all of the episodes though.
Why did I join an EH forum? Well, El was always going on about how cool forums were, so as I was surfing around for EH images, I came across this website, and I saw that it had a forum, and went: 'yey! anime fans!' I was hooked from then on. ;D
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Way back when the scifi channel was showing anime marathons, a friend made me watch a few things. The next day I was in the video store, hanging around the anime section looking lost. One of the employees was a veteran otaku, and the next time i came in he handed me a stack of tapes and told me to see what appealed to me. (Maybe not entirely altruistic...I ended up buying a lot of the stuff he lent me.)
EH was one of them, and it was just instant love. I called up all my friends, babbling incoherently, and made them watch it. It was just everything that attracted me to anime...the art, the characters, the way the plot kinda had everything.... I loved the way the plot never quite went where you might expect it to.
And it has IFURITA-SAMAAA! ;D What can I say? I still cry at the end of OAV1.
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I'm an anime fan for years now. So I'm interrested in anime generally.
Once, when the card game 'MAGIC - The gathering' started booming in germany, there were many clones of this kind of game. I found a similar game with anime chars that started to interrest me. That was the first time when I saw 'Shayla-Shayla'. The image looked quite cool and it was a powerful char as well. So I started to search the anime she was taken from and finally found 'El Hazard'.
Then I got my hands on the OVA 1, the first nine episodes. Now I got the OVA 2 and I like it even more. I can't await to see the rest of it. ;D
How I got to EHOL?
I was searching for images of El Hazard and information how many Episodes and different types of El Hazard there are (you know: Magnificent World, Alternative World, Wanderers) because I got a little confused of it. Then I strumbled over EHOL causually. The great amount of information and the forum made me stay here now.
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Actually, I was one of the unfortunates who started off with the Alternative World. My sis had gotten a free ticket to the Nan-Desu-con in Denver, and seeing as how I didn't get to go, she was nice and decided to spend her own money buying me a few suveniers. She had seen the first episode of EH at the con in the viewing room, and decided to buy it. However, the one she picked up was AW. After a little confusion and a LOT of explaining on Care's part, I figured it all out, and decided it really wasn't worth the confusion.
The reason I kept watching long enough to get really hooked: Jinnai. Actually, I ent up writing a really sloppy fan-fic about him, and I even animated a short, really ametuer film! :-[ Of course, none of it is ever coming into public, since I was like, 12 and the work really sucked... But the movie was cute. ;D
How I found EHOL- accident. I was looking for an ancient site that I used to download music off of a year ago, and it happened to be served by EHOL. Anyways, I typed in the adress, and it came up here...
http://www.el-hazardonline.net/error/404.html
It was a sign! So I peeked at EHOL and immediatley fell in love with it, and, truth be told, I was actually in love with Rob for a little while! Hehehe! Little did I know Lar was on the site... ;D Anyways, I went into a whole donation spree in light of the discovery, and long story short, I found my niche!!! ;)
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*blushes* Thanks. ;D
I have to say the animation of EH is really good, better than some things that I've seen, and the dubbing is pretty good too.
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*blushes* Thanks. ;D
I think I'm supposed to say that. :P
Anyway, I've noted it several times before, but for this "official" thread; it was via the "Habba Habba Zoot Zoot" music video. Some buddy of mine had sent it to me simply because he thought it was hillarious (and it was.) For some reason the Jinnai character featured as "star" just drew my interest. I asked of course if my bud knew anything of this "El-Hazard". He said he didn't.
Well, since that was back in the days when I had steady work and paychecks, I figured there'd be no harm in throwing out the cash to buy the DVD boxset.
Me and my younger brother Tim both just "had a feeling" about this one. We didn't know why. We knew nothing other than Habba Habba Zoot Zoot which really doesn't tell us anything.
Our primary experience at this time would've been with The Irresponsible Captain Tylor, which I had watched and enjoyed very much with my sister. That being the first official time I saw dubbed anime to be beyond "good" into "excellent." (With stuff that typically airs on TV to be obviously watered-down "poor" or "average".) This probably facilitated the buying. At this time, subtitled anime did not appeal to me at all. My youngest brother Joseph bought a DBZ movie that was the original subtitled, although still censored graphically if I remember. At that time I just didn't get good results from the subtitles, so English dubbing was the good stuff. (This changed later to a level of acceptance once my sister started downloading unlicensed anime; I think it was just DBZ that didn't work for me. :P)
Anyway, so yeah, you know... We got it, we loved it, and I decided I must become a fanboy. This was important because up until this point I was terribly depressed breaking out of a long-term, serious relationship and I had abandoned the fandom I was previously associated with. Basically at this point in my life I was totally directionless in hobby and life. (I was NOT attending school, just working full time for a dead-end retail job, not planning to move on, and didn't have anything to do in my spare time.)
El-Hazard changed this. Something about it all... maybe it was the thoughts of going to another world where all of your problems and past no longer really mattered as much. Note almost all of the Earth characters had horrible things about to happen to them.
* Fujisawa was caught drinking, which appeared to be a total surprise to the students. He was probably reported and was likely to lose his job.
* Jinnai was about to lose his class presidency, which obviously meant everything to him, whether or not he had performed slanted actions.
* Makoto was about to reap the benefits of Jinnai's rage, so to speak. :P
Nanami I'm not sure of, maybe eventual effects from the deranged brother but I digress.
Anyway, that's how I got hooked. And had I not been hooked, none of you would be here now talking about being hooked. :)
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If memory serves, which it sometimes does, I became hooked on El-Hazard via the inter-net. Whilst looking for an image of something or other, I happened across an Ifurita wallpaper.
Something about her made me want to find out more, so one search-engine patrol led to another. Eventually, I made it to the local video-rental store where I was able to get the usual some-episodes-are-missing stack of tapes.
The idea of El-Hazard appealed to me, for reasons which are difficult to articulate. (You've noticed by now that doesn't stop me from writing.) It's a wonderfully-different world to which I can escape when need be; and for that I'm thankful to its creators.
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Back in 2001 I posted the story of how I became acquainted with El Hazard to the Yahoo! Groups El Hazard Fan Club forum, where I first met folks such as Erin-chan, Dooky, Amanda Dale, Mr. What and Spanner.
I've included it below in part, being relevant to the topic at hand:
--- In el-hazard@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Engels" <mark_engels@r...> wrote:
Special thanks to Spanner for the warm reception off list. As it
turns out he and I both live in Minnesota's Twin Cities in the north
central US. I am looking forward to meeting him in person for a
night of consuming edibles and watching anime in the near future.
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My anime and manga interests are wide and varied. It all began as I
suppose it does for most latetwentysomething and earlythirtysomething
listers here: sneaking down at 6:30 in the morning to watch Kimba
and Speed Racer, then watching Battle of the Planets, then later
Voltron and finally Robotech (this all before we knew what "anime"
was.) In college I experienced the requisite Bubble Gum Crisis,
Akira, and became hooked on the Heavy Metal motion picture. (OK OK
not anime per se but a cult favorite.) By this time I'd found out
there were actually COMIC SHOPS where one could buy manga. While not
manga in the strict sense, I'm sure there are other fans of Steven A.
Gallacci, Stan Sakai and Reed Waller/Kate Worley on the group: it
was about this time I first became a fan of their anthropomorphic
work. I did collect every Macross/Robotech comic I could get my
hands on and ate up everything by Johji Manabe. Miyazaki's Nausicaa
was also one of my early favorites. After picking up Ben Dunn's
adaptation of Captain Harlock, I began Ninja High School. That more
than anything set the hook for me, as I immediately began wondering
where all these "walk on" anime characters were coming from in the
NHS plotline (Salusian fanservice notwithstanding. ;) )
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During college I had obtained a Commercial Driver's License. I got
back into manga when I was driving tractor trailer on the weekends
hauling mail between Minneapolis and Chicago to earn some extra
pocket change. I needed something to pass the time on my layovers,
so began toting various trade paperbacks with me in my grip. I tore
up Battle Angel Alita and the collected Nausicaa with a vengeance.
This was also when I'd started picking up Oh! My Goddess and Gunsmith
Cats. I'd also become familiar with Rumiko Takahashi's works at this
time and began collecting Ranma, Inu Yasha, and Maison Ikkoku
(probably my all time favorite) in trade paperback form.
It was also about this time I first began spreading my wings as a fan
fiction author. If any of the list is interested I'll be happy to
direct you to a link of my own works set in Kishiro's Battle Angel
Alita timeline. At various Midwestern anime conventions I've had
pleasure to meet a number of fellow fictwriters and engage in
wondeful C&C with them (usually while consuming libations in generous
amounts. ;) )
More recent favorites include Neon Genesis Evangelion and Child's
Toy. Other short series I've picked up in either manga or anime form
include 801st Airbats, You're Under Arrest, AD Police, Spirit of
Wonder, Legend of Kotetsu, All Purpose Cat Girl Nuku Nuku, Dual! and
Tenchi Universe. Being a Kishiro fan I've enjoyed Aqua Knights and
await the coming of the new Battle Angel Alita adaptation. I pick up
Animerica Extra and Super Manga Blast at every opportunity because
I've been enjoying each publication's serieses a great deal.
Then there is El Hazard. I attribute my latecoming the the EHFC due
to the fact I caught a very brief portion of the OVA 2 back in '98 at
an anime club meeting in The Cities (it was the part where Shayla
allows herself to be seduced by Fatora thinking it's Makoto.) For
some reason it didn't really stick with me. I blew it off entirely
until I was reading the Animerica Extra issue in which the EH manga
was previewed. Those of you who haven't seen it...it was a wonderful
adaptation of the scene in which Makoto meets Ifurita for the first
time under Shinonome High. Just from the three page preview I was
hooked! I've collected the manga since and have purchased the EH DVD
box set. In fact I'm looking forward to watching it again when
Spanner-san and I manage to get together.
I've also taken great pleasure reading some very literarily sound and
satisfying El Hazard fan fiction. My favorites include the work of
Ken Wolfe ("Earth" and "Reunited") and Alan Harnum ("Mortal
Engines"...I'd like it more if he actually finished it!) I did see a
rather intriguing fanfic post from our own Herr (or Fraulien? I'm
confused!) Dititrich way back in the day describing a notably
different way in which Ifurita might later relate to Makoto after
their reunion. I'll agree with Erin: it was certainly a worthy
effort by a non-Anglophone to create a credible piece of work.
And I might be creating some new fanfiction of my own. I'll leave it
to you all to tell me whether you'd be interested in reading it
here. Some of you might want to check out my GUNNM body of work,
then tell me whether you want such rabble clogging up your in-
baskets.
I've got some wonderful ideas that I might need fleshing out. I had
the distinct pleasure of meeting Ken Wolfe in person last weekend in
Fargo, North Dakota (well, yeah, but it was halfway between Ken's
native Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada and my Minnesota Twin Cities.) He
and I have been enjoying a delightful correspondence that has only
served to awaken my sleeping muses. I hope I might "get by with a
little help from my friends" as it were.
Time and again I've seen references to EH anime music videos. I was
absolutely stunned back in '98 at Anime Central when I saw Neon
Genesis Evangelion set to Europe's Final Countdown. More on topic,
at Ken's urging I downloaded the the Sarah Brightman Once In a
Lifetime El Hazard video by Michael Ko. Wonderful piece of work,
that. Watch it every chance I get! I've got a few ideas for
creating AMVs of my own but will need some technical assistance at
some point.
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My apologies for the lengthy post, friends. I wanted to give you
some background on me in the hopes we'll discover our common
interests, not the least of which is El Hazard. I'm an Ifurita (OVA
1) devotee. I am particularly fond of the relationship we see
developing between them in OVA 1 and Ken Wolfe's rendition of its
continuance in his work. And while I prefer watching my anime
dubbed, I do believe there is room for improvement in vocal direction
and casting. Maybe if more production houses paid SAG going rate...
Looking forward to being a member of the community. Until next
time...
"...an' keep 'em between the white lines, driver..."
--me
Mark Engels
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And the madness continues. I now have all the EH manga in both loose comic and trade paperback form. I've downloaded several EH anime music videos that tend to focus primarily on Makoto and Ifurita, including ones set to such varying music types as Celene Dion's "You Look At Me" and Evenescence's "Bring Me to Life." Of course there are now additional forays into El Hazard fan fiction for the community to enjoy, thanks to my collaboration of the aforementioned Mr. Wolfe and the support of my fellow online EH fans, including those here and still with the EHFC forum.
Not bad, I figure, given the last new EH series was released in Japan several years ago now. With the release of the Wanderers and TAW box sets, I hope the fandom will enjoy some momentum for some time.
--me
Mark Engels
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It's all Lar's fault. :P
I wish they would show EH on TV, or sell it in HMV...
*Sigh*
I've seen close to one episode, and I've found out more about the characters, here and there.
I can't tell one series from another though. :-[
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Well, *rubs back of her head* I suppose everything does have to be my fault. :-/
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Mine's embarrassingly simple, really... I heard Jinnai's laugh somehow one day, and thought "GOD that's sexy." I haven't looked back since. ;D
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Suddenly I must practice a Jinnai laugh.
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Here's my story. A friend of mine in VA used to tape trade with me. We would just fill up 8 hours tapes with anime and send them back and forth. One day he sends me a tape with some stuff on it, including El Hazard. I vaguely remember reading about it as some mecha anime or something. I'm not sure why, but that was what was in my mind at the time. I couldn't have been more wrong! I set about watching the tape one day, (I think it had some Evangelion on it first) and eventually got to El Hazard. The tape had all of OVA1 dubbed and the first 2 eps of OVA2 on it. I'd already been watching anime for a couple hours that day, so by the time I got to El Hazard I watched about halfway through the first episode then just shut it off. I couldn't get into it and wanted to go out and do something anyway.
I came back to it later that night. Or, maybe the next day. I was hooked by episode 3. Who was that mysterious girl at the beginning? And who is this mysterious and terrible Demon-God? By the time I finished what I had, I was completely hooked and absolutely taken with Ifurita. To this day, she still is my favorite anime chara.
I next asked my friend for what he had of Wanderers (volume 1-4). And enjoyed that too. I bought what remained of the series, that I didn't already have, on VHS. And the neatest part, next month the first volume of a new El Hazard series The Alternative World was coming out on VHS! Ah yes, those were good times indeed.
I usually don't make it a habit of replacing my VHS anime with DVDs. That would be a costly venture that would break me. But, El Hazard being my favorite, I just had to pick up the OVA boxset! I'll probably pick up the Wanderers and Alt World boxes eventually as well. But he OVAs are still, and always will be my favorites.
edit: Reading your post Rob, it's an interesting situation that got you into El Hazard. And I had a similar situation! I was a fan (although not a terribly serious one) of anime for several years. Then, after I got dumped from what I thought was a serious, long term relationship all I had to turn to was anime. So, I embraced fandom whole-heartedly. With all this sparetime on your hands, and in serious need of distraction, what else is one to do?
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I've never had VHS of El-Hazard... I figured I might as well utilize that DVD drive that was in my computer for something. :P (At that time I was the only one in the house with any DVD accessability. My dad had rented a movie once or twice just to check it out... ah well, whatever.
Eventually, when I have money, I'd like to buy all the VHS and LD copies I can find... not that I need them, of course. I'm just a collector. ;) Plus the site -- or rather, the obese archive of El-Hazard as it seems to be -- can use some good scans of those buggers.
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First watched it back when I was a senior in high school, years ago. Thought the ending was one of the bestest things ever. Still do, actually.
Eventually watched Wanderers when that came out, as well as the first tape for OVA2. I didn't finish OVA2 until I picked up the DVD boxset, since it's never really impressed me that much. I also have the first VHS tape from when they were rereleased with the new covers.
Hmm, just occured to me that I've never watched the Alternative World. Guess the period in between Ifurita's descent into the Eye of God and her retrieval from Earth just doesn't appeal to me that much. I want more of Makoto's Ifurita!
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1970s/1980s: KPLR, channel 11, out of St. Louis, runs Speed Racer and Battle of the Planets in the 1970s. Also runs Galaxy Rangers in the 1980s-- not Japanese animation, but very anime-ish. Eric enjoys all three series.
Mid 1980s: KETC, channel 9, out of St. Louis, runs Doctor Who. Eric becomes a Doctor Who fan boy during high school. What's anime?
Late 1980s: Eric collects reprints of the manga Mai The Psychic Girl. Otherwise fails to show any special interest in anime during college.
Early 1990s: Eric collects Cerebus and The Sandman comics, and mostly gives up comics when Sandman ends. Also goes to see The Crow too many times, begins listening to the Cure, and actually goes goth for one embarrassing weekend in 1995. What's anime?
Mid to late 1990s: Eric rents tapes of Castle of Cagliostro, Vampire Hunter D, and one or two other anime tapes. Enjoys those two movies, but there isn't any other anime to rent in Springfield IL or Bloomington IL at the time.
May 1998: Eric makes an ass of himself on two or three Internet mailing lists at the same time. Unsubscribes from all mailing lists, and swears off Usenet forever.
May 2001: Eric finally rents Princess Mononoke. It doesn't exactly become a favorite, but it finally triggers a real interest in anime.
June 2001: Eric finally buys a DVD player. Also begins downloading fansubs of Kodomo No Omocha, Love Hina and Excel Saga, and anime music videos.
July 2001: Eric buys his first anime DVD, Castle Of Cagliostro, from Best Buy. Orders his second anime DVD, Vampire Hunter D, through the Internet. Receives a Playboy video by mistake. Returns the Playboy DVD for an exchange-- think of that what you will.
August 2001: Eric begins studying Japanese, after picking up a few words from fansubs despite himself.
September 2001: Eric spends a weekend in Champaign-Urbana IL, and brings his DVD player with him. Rents a handful of anime DVDs, more or less at random, from That's Rentertainment (http://www.rentertainment.com/) (possibly the best video rental store on the planet). One rental was the first four episodes of the first El-Hazard OVA. Eric watches this, and thinks, huh, that was pretty good. I'll have to watch the rest of that sometime soon.
November 2001: Eric orders the El-Hazard OVAs through the Internet.
December 2001: Eric begins surfing El-Hazard sites on the Internet. Develops an unhealthy obsession with OVA-Ifurita.
January 2002: Eric orders Alternative World volume 1 DVD. Decides El-Hazard is officially his favorite anime.
February 2002: Eric orders the rest of the Alt World DVDs. Disappointed with the rest of Alt World, but this does little to curb his enthusiasm for the franchise in general.
March/April 2002: Eric orders the Wanderers DVDs. For an OVA-Ifurita fan-boy, he has surprisingly little trouble accepting and enjoying the TV-Ifurita character. He also begins writing anime fan fiction, at the tender age of 32.
May 2002: Eric posts his first batch of fan fiction to FanFiction.net. Also subscribes to the Yahoo! El-Hazard mailing list, the first mailing list he takes in several years.
July? 2002: Eric finally registers with eBay, for the purpose of buying El-Hazard junk.
January 2003: Eric registers with EHOL, begins socializing on an Internet forum for the first time in several years, and proceeds to make an ass of himself on a semi-regular basis.
June 2003: Eric posts a message to said forum, carefully researching his journals to establish a time-line, and pretentiously writing it in the third person.
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January 2003: Eric registers with EHOL, begins socializing on an Internet forum for the first time in several years, and proceeds to make an ass of himself on a semi-regular basis.
I still don't know why you keep saying this. :P
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Early 1990s: Eric collects Cerebus and The Sandman comics, and mostly gives up comics when Sandman ends. Also goes to see The Crow too many times, begins listening to the Cure, and actually goes goth for one embarrassing weekend in 1995. What's anime?
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome! MrWhat, you should join Sarah and I in our l337 Closet Goth Guild!!!
::goes back to blasting :wumpscut: CDs to piss off his stupid ass neighbors::
Also gives me an idea for another thread. Everyone head on over to the non-EH section!
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MrWhat, you should join Sarah and I in our l337 Closet Goth Guild!!!
Sure, I'll sign up for that. That was part of my initial attraction to OVA-Ifurita. I still have a thing for pale angst-ridden women in black :P
::goes back to blasting :wumpscut: CDs to piss off his stupid ass neighbors::
Near the end of my college career, I used to play My Bloody Valentine to clear the room ::)
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Awesome! MrWhat, you should join Sarah and I in our l337 Closet Goth Guild!!!
That's right! Everyone should join us! You KNOW you WANT to!
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Near the end of my college career, I used to play My Bloody Valentine to clear the room ::)
LOL!
That's right! Everyone should join us! You KNOW you WANT to!
That's right, Princess Sarahphim!! Now, repeat after me:
::grabs CD booklet and start reciting Nosferatu lyrics for no apparent reason::
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That's right! Everyone should join us! You KNOW you WANT to!
*Imagines himself as a goth, and chuckles*
Still, I must admit that I'm rather fond of wearing black... :P
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::stands in the right place, with a long enough lever, to move a thread back on-topic, but pushes the wrong way::
Oh, well. Anyway, I'm here because Rob posted at MoogleMB about EHPC, and I thought "Hey, Rob actually did something, I'd better investigate." I downloaded, I played, I died at Ifurita's Tomb four times before I finally thought of taking one of the priestesses (before that I just took Rune, Allielle, Nanami, and drunk Fujisawa in various combinations). Intrigued, I started looking around the site linked to in his sig (i.e. EHOL) and decided that this El-Hazard thing was interesting, though I wasn't sure I wanted to follow it to any significant degree, though. Then I found the forum and there was no escape. ;D
Which leads me to today, and I'm still trying to find some way to actually watch some form of El-Hazard without going broke or resorting to a file-sharing service. (I've searched for El-Hazard on KaZaA, but I felt bad about downloading actual episodes. I did pick up Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot, though. :P) DVD prices are so inflated...
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eBay man. The DVD boxset once came up for $1 (starting bid, no reserve) O_o;;
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eBay man. The DVD boxset once came up for $1 (starting bid, no reserve) O_o;;
And a "Buy it Now" tag? ;D
Seriously, though, e-bay is a nice place to look for stuff. But while a box set might show up for a buck, I sincerely doubt it would stay that price for long. Do you know off-hand what it eventually sold for? I would guess something along the lines of $80 to $90 - which is, sadly, still well outside the means of the casual anime fan.
It never hurts to try, though!
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Hmm, just occured to me that I've never watched the Alternative World. Guess the period in between Ifurita's descent into the Eye of God and her retrieval from Earth just doesn't appeal to me that much. I want more of Makoto's Ifurita!
So for your consideration, let me present Ken Wolfe's work:
http://www.mts.net/~kenwolfe/fanfic.html
Some have said that if ever there were an OVA 3 that Ken has already written the screenplay. His "Earth" and "Reunited" stories give an engaging and satisfying account of the struggles Makoto and Ifurita face even after their reunion and the challenges that face all the cast members in the years to come. It was after reading the first few manga issues and reading Ken's work that I decided to pick up the OVAs on DVD.
I am a big fan of Makoto's Ifurita myself, so found Ken's work to be very enjoyable. I believe so too shall you.
BTW: In 1986 was running home every day after school to watch Robotech before I even knew what "anime" was. :) The Palladium Books "paper n' dice" Robotech RPG was a significant pastime for my friends and I in college. And of course I've got a bookshelf full of the McKinney novels. So I found your UN Spacy links interesting to say the least. ;)
--me
Mark Engels
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How many many times you've mentioned Wolfe's work, and yet I've never taken the time to read ANY of it.
But of this latest mention, I ask, is it all based after reuniting with Ifurita? If it is, then at least I know I don't have to read it in concideration of things I'm currently working on.
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So for your consideration, let me present Ken Wolfe's work:
http://www.mts.net/~kenwolfe/fanfic.html
Some have said that if ever there were an OVA 3 that Ken has already written the screenplay. His "Earth" and "Reunited" stories give an engaging and satisfying account of the struggles Makoto and Ifurita face even after their reunion and the challenges that face all the cast members in the years to come. It was after reading the first few manga issues and reading Ken's work that I decided to pick up the OVAs on DVD.
I am a big fan of Makoto's Ifurita myself, so found Ken's work to be very enjoyable. I believe so too shall you.
BTW: In 1986 was running home every day after school to watch Robotech before I even knew what "anime" was. :) The Palladium Books "paper n' dice" Robotech RPG was a significant pastime for my friends and I in college. And of course I've got a bookshelf full of the McKinney novels. So I found your UN Spacy links interesting to say the least. ;)
--me
Mark Engels
I read it several years ago, actually, though amusingly enough, Reunited was the first part that I stumbled on. ;) I tracked down the rest on fanfiction.net shortly thereafter. I hadn't read Prime Candidate or Rough Justice though. Pity there's no real way to slide Rough Justice into Earth Chapter Six, as the real villian was fairly obvious to anyone who's read all of Earth. Still both of them were excellent reads.
Macross... isn't Robotech. It really isn't. I have fond, faded memories of RT, but Macross is a different beast.
Even if I don't like our mechanics system.
And our wrong stats (for the moment.)
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i saw a ad for EL-Hazard in a pioneer promo book in a comic shop the drawings looked nice but at the times the main thing that pulled me was it said "From the same team that brought you Tenchi Muyo!" So i thought I'd give it a try when it came out in the end I picked it up and watched it ^_^ from then on it was "Tenchi What now?"
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How was I hooked? well it was the first anime I watch on the uni's anime club. The moment I saw Ifurita & Makoto I was hooked, she looked so inlove with him. So I wanted to know why she had sent him to another world and why wasn't she there? I must say I was very impressed with the storyline & the characters as well. My fave character is Ifurita all the way.
offtopic: is it just me or the pages take a long time to load? my connection is dsl and they less than a minute.
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They might depending on the server load. Right now I host everything on my own horsepower using my own DSL. This is not incredible for bandwidth. (Most DSL packages including mine only feature 128kbps UPSTREAM, the stuff that goes outward. This is incredibly limiting for hosting like I do.) Eventually when I can afford to buy some more "professional" hosting I will. (Right now the only "professional" hosting is elhazardonline-dl.net which is for file hosting only)
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I had my first taste of El-Hazard when it was shown on the Internation Channel (still is). There was nothing else to watch around taht time (~8) and i think any anime is better than those crap sitcoms they have nowadays.
I think the first episode i watched was the hot springs one... suffice to say, I was pretty confused.
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I agree, that anime is more entertaining and enlightning than most of the dribble that's been on TV the last 20 years or so. ^^;
At least, it doesn't pander to the lowest common denominator!
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Well, my first exposure to El Hazard was all the way back in 1996. I was still in high school, and to my surprise a videogame import store opened up in my neighborhood. Not only did they sell neat crap from Japan, but they also rented out subtitled copies of various anime. Of the many titles I had rented, El Hazard struck me as the most unique. This was mostly due to the character of Jinnai, who in my opinion is the best villian to grace any screen.
After a while I lost interest with the show, moving on to others like Ranma and Evangelion. It wasn't until a year or so ago that my interest was rekindled, when I picked up the OAV DVD box set. I watched it dubbed this time, and instantly fell in love with the characters. The entire cast was great, and offered a completely different experience from the subtitled version. Jinnai became my main man again, as Bob Marx's portrayal really gave him new life for me.
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Yes. Bob Marx = God. They couldn't have picked a more perfect VA to do the English dub! ;D I mean, he even near perfectly does the laugh with the same trills compared to the original Japanese VA.
He is the reason alone I bought the Hand Maid May DVD's; he voices Kotaro Nanbara, who is essentially Jinnai on sugar. ;p
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He is the reason alone I bought the Hand Maid May DVD's; he voices Kotaro Nanbara, who is essentially Jinnai on sugar. ;p
Nanbara-sama (and I use the honorific grudgingly -.-) is more like Jinnai on a mixture of sugar, crack, ice, heroin, prozac and paint fumes. ^_^;;;
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... it doesn't work as well if we focus on the Japanese character. Then it's even lighter as a similiarity. The true gag mostly exists in the tied English VA's. I mean, he's not THAT much like Jinnai. :-/ The English VA makes him more Jinnai like mostly in his behavior and acting that flows more like the Jinnai he played in English El-Hazard. I mean, purely he's more just an isolated nutcase with some simple parallels, but nothing to write home about.
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Hand Maid May, eh? I must pick that up as soon as I get the chance. I already own most of the shows and movies Bob Marx has been in, including Perfect Blue, Trigun, and of course El Hazard.
Too bad he isn't in too many things, although that does make collecting his stuff easier...
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I agree, that anime is more entertaining and enlightning than most of the dribble that's been on TV the last 20 years or so. ^^;
At least, it doesn't pander to the lowest common denominator!
I had to chuckle when I read this. A lot of anime panders to some pretty low common denominators, in my opinion. :P
It's simply a matter of recognizing just WHAT constitutes a low common denominator. After all, the goal for just about ANY product is to get as many people as possible to buy it. Japan has different lowest common denominators, not necessarily better ones.
A vast majority of anime is rife with sexism, Lolicon, fanservice, and trite plots. I'm not sure I'd like to put any of these attributes on any sort of pedistal. :-X
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Hand Maid May, eh? I must pick that up as soon as I get the chance. I already own most of the shows and movies Bob Marx has been in, including Perfect Blue, Trigun, and of course El Hazard.
Too bad he isn't in too many things, although that does make collecting his stuff easier...
I'll get into this one of these days. I'm curious as to a full list though. ;) Isn't there at least one where he actually VA's a good guy?
A vast majority of anime is rife with sexism, Lolicon, fanservice, and trite plots. I'm not sure I'd like to put any of these attributes on any sort of pedistal.
Agreed. :P But if we just focus on the qualm of "more entertaining" than some stuff on TV, even the obviously low stuff mentioned here can be quite entertaining anyway. ;)
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Hand Maid May, eh? I must pick that up as soon as I get the chance. I already own most of the shows and movies Bob Marx has been in, including Perfect Blue, Trigun, and of course El Hazard.
He's also in Tokyo Revelation. Rather craptastic OVA released years ago. I don't know if it ever made it to DVD.
I had to chuckle when I read this. A lot of anime panders to some pretty low common denominators, in my opinion. :P
It's simply a matter of recognizing just WHAT constitutes a low common denominator. After all, the goal for just about ANY product is to get as many people as possible to buy it. Japan has different lowest common denominators, not necessarily better ones.
I find that most anime (or at least most of the ones I watch) have much more substance than any western show or movie I've seen. Or, are just flat out more entertaining. Or, are rife with so many of the petty western taboos that I find ridiculous. Or, just completely hysterical.
A vast majority of anime is rife with sexism, Lolicon, fanservice, and trite plots. I'm not sure I'd like to put any of these attributes on any sort of pedistal. :-X
*BLINK* You say that like it's a bad thing?
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Heh heh, I should clarify my last comment. Sexism is NOT cool. Although I've yet to find very much in anime I'd consider "sexism." Of course, there's also the one time at my old job where I was talking with my coworker about anime and some woman started screaming in my face "Those cartoons are rascist and sexist!!!!!" Ummm.... ok. ^^;
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Did you kick her ass?
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Did you kick her ass?
Hell yes I did! The bitch got raw with me, so I.... I mean.... wait........ That's not very nice LGJ.
::taps foot petulantly::
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Hey, random violence is the best way to convince others of differing views to fall in line with your own!
BWA HAH HAHAHAHAHAHA!